Is it “Goonswarm”? 
I always voted for hi-sec/solo player advocates; some of them even made it to CSM. (Hi Mike!)
I don’t bother voting any more - EVE has been meta-ed to death.
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No, it won’t. The more you make it about destroying us, the more you drive us to defy that. Whether or not we lose our space1, we will come for your skulls, for the rest of EVE’s life. The victory conditions all of your leaders have set, from Vily to Piggles to Killah Flee to Gobbins and beyond, is nothing less than driving us from the game. And those victory conditions are impossible.
By the definition your own leaders have set, you cannot win. And all we have to do to not lose… is still be here, in EVE. Clubs? You don’t even have a clue.
Oh, I know. But that doesn’t excuse CCP’s craptastic presentation of the info. 
Regardless of the reason, you’re the one claiming we approved this change. So stop trying to spin it, and just admit you were wrong.
1. And even that, you won’t do if you keep running the hell away any time you try to sneak into Delve.
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Well ■■■■ ccp, i am not a miner but even i know that this is way too harsh
how the hell are going to mine the corp in wh ?
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Think we should at least give this change a try. Could be an opportunity for something great. Idk
Sure, but would you be watching youtube? If you’d be doing something not at your keyboard then it is not free. In fact, we could use the cost of PLEX to give a rough idea of the ISK value of an hour of game time (~1.85 million ISK).
This won’t stop mining. Nor will it stop production. It just changes things. The question is will it be a good or a bad change. I am inclined towards bad since it is a pretty large scale change and historically CCP tends to screw those things up. Mining in HS may very well become more profitable as it becomes the largest source of tritanium which goes into just about every final good in the game. Self-sufficiency in NS becomes untenable. Now HS supply routes will matter even more. Wormholes…sucks to be you guys (and I’m not hating on you guys, in fact I’ve always admired you guys just never had the RL time to do what you crazy SOBs do).
well they killed carriers and all caps now mining , oh and wait the citadels with their bs core crap… Why not pi. Been paying to ship spin gonna come to a halt. ccp hates their game and whenever you complain about their changes you get nothing or cheap lip service
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I see news of a 1T cap battle, seems odd if caps are all dead already…
I’m going to keep mining after these changes go through.
I think you are overreacting a bit here.
way to pick out the ONLY thing in that post to try and make your point.
Snippets from both devblogs (Resource Distribution Update, The Eve Online Ecosystem Outlook)
“As mentioned in the EVE Online Ecosystem Outlook blog from March, the goal for this update is the reduction of inventory”
Highly questionable expectation. Times of shortage are the usual period to hoard, both materials and isk, up to a 1000 rolls of toilet paper… It will also reduce destruction of ships because of hoarding and the induced risk averseness.
" Abundance breeds Complacency and Scarcity breeds War"
It could, but not in the way you, CCP, intend to implement this. It may breed war in lowsec/nullsec if let’s say half of the regions would offer a resource, or if resources would rotate over time across regions, but it’s far more likely that either a blue donut covers most of it, or that trade negotiations and agreements are established. Redistributing tritanium to hisec only, as an example, is not going to “breed war”, it will just increase movement with an occasional ship loss.
" significant progress is being made towards the goals for a healthy New Eden ecosystem "
The EvE community is known for having more than the average number of savvy players. As long as you do not share at least some of the details on “progress” and “goals”, and continue to use terminology taken from the bovine ■■■■ bingo card you will not receive more confidence from the player base in your plans and any steps ahead. Frankly, just like the sov system, the upwell structures, the rorquals, etc etc, this one does feel more of the “one day you might get it right”. That may or may not be due to the way you communicate and changes implemented by gavage.
Right now, we’re hoping you’ll hit target first time. The signs, however, are weak.
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I can’t be bothered getting into the core argument here, go read my posts in the core thread regarding that.
And that was all the non rant stuff in the post, so given I addressed 2/3rds of the points… I think I addressed perfectly enough of the post.
It’s an overreaction to say this kills mining or industry. Both will be fine, and will continue afterwards. There will be a little pain while the system adjusts.
How is this supposed to balance veteran players that have already stockpiled millions of ore @ relatively peanut prices over the years? It seems that lately all of your ideas come from opposite day or something? The problem was never mined ore. The problem was and will continue to be the ore stocked up in stations. The solution is to make ore expire after 1 month in the hanger but that would hurt the EVE overlords. Better to make another policy that hurts new players that actually log in and reward people who don’t play the game or subscribe anymore.
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Is it a smart move now collecting as much minerals as you can and sell them after the patch because prices will rise? 
Maybe, or maybe they will fall due to producers leaving the market so lower demand, since the supply chain might be more complex (or just keep buying in Jita anyway)
the fact no dev has replied to any of our views or common question’s on this thread speaks volumes
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They have a design bully problem, his answer would be something like, “You cannot understand because you are just a user” or some condescending crap like that.
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" * Increase of mining ship losses"
Have to wonder who is making decisions when CCP thinks screwing over a section of the player base as a stated goal is they way to maintain subscription numbers.
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Why would they when most people are just ranting and abusing them.
Most actual questions have been answered by other players already.
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As always, you need to wait a couple of years, if EVE-project does not die, it will be interesting to look at EVE- economy and production. But I don’t want to pay for these changes my ISK. Another reason to win a lot of free time)
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Will never happen because of the database setup.
They would need to track every single resource as a separate item, not just a combined stack. That would be stupid, and impossible to UI.
be nice to know they have an actual interest in the fan base that pays there wages don’t you think