Well, if lowsec turns out to be a little too traffic’d (remember the difference between LS and j-space: the hunters know you’re there in lowsec), there are definitely ways to get Zydrine in HS. You’ll want a decent-sized ore hold and a good prop mod, though, it’s a long, slow 200km w/out one.
Heh. All of which sound like good advice, yeah. 
If you’re talking about what I think you’re talking about… you can just warp, can’t you?
Nope. Deadspace.
Guys highsec mining still exists. Mine the trig or edencom sites, there is a crazy amout of ore that gives out the “lowsec only” ore. I don’t know why people don’t know about this.
That’s news to me, other than reproc or buying it. I’m very new to mining, so can you tell me? Well it still be possible after the update?
Rakovene. Go to EDENCOM minor victory systems, and then head for the Major beacons.
All mining ships can fit cloaks. That’s a technicality, but still worth remembering when in LS.
The only ones that can do so in a travel context are prospect (T2 frigate that can fit covert ops and warp when cloaked; it can mine ore and gas) and the porpoise which can cloaky warp.
The porpoise can also solo mine using drones. It is not great at this, compared to its cost, but is still better than the prospect and has a much bigger ore hold.
In terms of alignment, the quickest mining ships are venture, endurance and prospect. All of these will go in 4 secs and the endurance and venture will do it in 3. For travel purposes, that makes the endurance worth looking at as it is not only fast but will take ice as well as ore. It will die to a smart bomb camp (and fat fingers) but still has a realistic probability of beating regular gate camps on most occasions.
Fighting off attackers in LS using mining ships is problematic. As a rule of thumb, if it is a player, don’t. However, I have done it in successfully in LS in a procurer. Otherwise, your main problem is NPC.
In a prospect, your main defence is speed tank. Just orbit ore at top speed. Perfectly OK but you will likely die to a player. Same in venture. The advantage of endurance tho is it packs three drones and can take out most NPC, including a clone soldier in 0.4. The porpoise is much harder hitting with full drone flight and can take out lower level cones, but with disadvantage that you have to stop mining to swap drones over.
The important thing about endurance is you can also just stop mining and cloak up. Same as with procurer if you are prepared to move one of those permanently into LS. The huge advantage of endurance tho is altho you cant warp when cloaked you can still move without penalty. This means you can cloak and then scoot away at about 450 m/s. Very handy.
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There’s one thing i’d like too see, the separation of ore and goo in moon mining by the creation of separated drills. One for passive goo harvesting as it was prior the refineries with POS, and one for ore mining. With a better ore redistribution it could be interesting for LS IMO.
Assuming the minor victories not just go poof after the next patch. I really hope they do, because they kill lowsec PvP.
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Thanks. My goal is to sneak past gates, find a belt to mine Jaspet and mine with turrets while aligned. That way there’s no drone to wait to recall or to lose. Can you refine your advice for that strategy? One hold full should last me at least a week.
Edit: Why did this get flagged?
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Venture. For cost-effectiveness, this is your best bet.
In more detail, there are three quickly aligning, turret based options for mining that come complete with an ore hold: endurance, prospect & venture. The endurance is the fastest mining rate of the three, but only if you also use mining drones. So that’s out.
The prospect will warp when cloaked but takes some training to get to that level, nevermind to fly this T2 frigate in first place.
That leaves the unloved venture. It will align in 3 secs but more importantly, it will align in 4 secs but with a warp core stab also fitted. It has a 2 stab capability built-in, so that totals three and will get you past the majority of camps. That was the option I used when first ninja mining R64 moons.
Also, dont dismiss the orbiting of ores as a defense measure. When mining, orbit the rock at 5km with your AB on. If a player does jump you, you just might get away before they lock, because you are already moving tangentially at speed. You do also have option to pack 2 x hobgoblin II. Take them and make sure you fit a salvager in your high slot. The extra income from hitting rats does add up.
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the other fix this would be the best one is to put the orca and all other booster ships alike no mining ability but boost to the fleet so better shield mining amount and Armor make it so freighters can not warp to a belt field so the orca and other mining support ships have to the work they wear meant to do in the first place remove all mining boots to drones and add that boost in to command burst witch should make more enjoyable game play
one point, you don’t need deep core mining to obtain morphite (if that’s your end goal in that respect), all you need is access to an EDENCOM staging area. There’s TONS of it.
lol ccp has no idea how bad their going to regret this decision, i cant wait to see the plans the players have in store for ccp. ive already fired up the popcorn maker included in all caldari navy ships by default. the eve reddit is alot less controled than here and people been getting pretty colorful.
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These are exciting and interesting changes!
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And then these changes will go live and people will realise how little it really impacts them and calm down again.
oh sweetheart…
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lol this is how you know ccp is knowingly making a change people hate they keep deleting comments. seems like ccp has literally learned nothing.
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