Salvaging could be a career if bounties were slightly reduced and loot tables were expanded.
Not sure.
It seems to me that the income from salvaging is close to the income from low-skill haven ratting.
It would make sense if people stopped salvaging once they have enough skills to make more by ratting.
If that interpretation is correct, making salvaging/looting more valuable would only make it valuable until the prices crash again after more people find it worthwhile.
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If youâre using an MTU and donât want to risk a noctis, then fit a salvage dessy. You donât really need any of the bonuses of the noctis if the MTU has dragged all the wrecks in.
True!
But aside from cost the Noctis is a fair bit better than a destroyer at salvaging though, with an effective 10.7 salvagers vs 8, more locked targets, bigger cargohold for loot and salvage and flight of 5 salvage drones.
But salvage destroyers are certainly a good cheap alternative.
If I remember correctly, while a Noctis is better, it takes a lot of skills to get the most from it. A salvage DD is probably the best choice early on.
Well if the limiting factor is worry over cost then instead of risking the [insert price of noctis] youâre risking at most a couple mil on a dessy. Yes it will take slightly longer but if an MTU has pulled everything in then the process time wonât change much at all. With the stated goal of risking very little compleely in tact.
Another reason they need more Salvager shipsâŚ
They just need to improve upon the one they have.
Or remove mtus
Do you really think they can remove any mobile units at this point? To some extent mobile units do provide some (limited) content.
Honestly⌠mobile micro jump and mobile cynos.
It would probably be months before anyone realized they were gone.
Edit: forgot the mobile dscan inhibitor
Iâd agree with the first (cynos are out of my area of expertise).
They really donât. Dessyâs are fast cheap and manouvreable. Noctis can warp in to a central point, tractor everything extremely fast and can hold an entire siteâs worth of salvage. And if you really want a fat cargo hold for multiple sites, use an orca.
Everything needed for salvaging already exists.
Idk it seems like MTUs are great for starting fights or provoking them.
It wasnât a real suggestion i was just pointing out how a ship designed before them was basically made obsolete after them. There really isnât a lot that could save the noctis while mtu exist
Increase the Noctis Tractor range beyond 96km and lower the MTU range to bout 90km max. Probably not best answer but it would make it so MTU has some disadvantages.
You are right though the MTU does have significant advantages. You can attack a MTU though and just become criminal provoking âlegalâ fights where a Noctis would provoke Concord.
Alot of my original suggestion kinda pushes for special sites or dedicated ships.
Frigates - Ninja Loot or for Special Scan Sites maybe even homefronts
Destroyer Version - Acceleration Gate limitations, Wormholes, generally faster for smaller site cleanups.
Noctis Upgrade - Pushes for it to be better in general.
The Noctis already has good tractor range; nerfing the range(s) on the MTUs is definitely an idea, though. The Noctis could use another mid, more locked targets (12 max with skills), more agility and sensor strength.
I have no idea where any of these suggestions are coming from. If I run a site and book mark a wreck in the middle of the cluster a noctis can mop up in a couple minutes. How much faster do you want it to be my GOD.
96km is Noctis max range on tractor with T2 Tractor Beams and Max Ore Hauler skill. I agreed or I think i typed I did.. a extra locked target would be great. I think i added that as one of my recommendations.
TBH last post was me being a smart alex because people said NOCTIS sucks compared to MTU. My recommendation was stated in there though.
Alot of my original suggestion kinda pushes for special sites or dedicated ships.
Frigates - Ninja Loot or for Special Scan Sites maybe even homefronts
Destroyer Version - Acceleration Gate limitations, Wormholes, generally faster for smaller site cleanups.
Noctis Upgrade - Pushes for it to be better in general. (Salvage Drone Range and Salvage Range since it is a salvager. Other than that I enjoy the Noctis. It is a tad slow but for itâs purpose I think its great. I wouldnt mind the other 2 though for the stated reason.