[September] Upwell Cargo Deposit

[Ineedstuffhauled]

You were never a hauler, I guarantee it.

[Arrendis]

@Dyver_Phycad

exasperated

Exacerbated.

[Arrendis]

@Johann_Hemphill

Every wormholer can now use his Empire static to evacuate assets to lowsec in an emergency.

He could before, too. Or did you mean k-space static?

[Zymen_Danziger]

The “bugs” or “holes” in this new feature can easily be worked out.

1. Make ALL Courier contracts able to be PICKED UP and DELIVERED.
   Sorry courier scammers, find a new line of work…

2. If you have Access [but are unable to dock]
   A) Deposited items are delivered to your hangar.
   B) Removed items are ejected from the Citadel [in a can] that you have to scoop up.

Giving the chance of someone shooting the can before you reach it.
OR someone else scooping the can if you are not quick enough.

3. If you do NOT have access > Items are placed in your Delivered Items hangar.
   A) There is no removal / ejection option without access rights.
   Correct me if I am wrong below:
   B) Items in the Delivered Items hangar can NOT currently be put into a Contract or Asset Safety.

A+B = You dooming items to the void until that Citadel is un-anchored, or you gain access rights.
So no endless storing / restocking from enemy Citadels for cloaky campers or anyone else.

Did I miss something?

[Angela_Belvar]

All these neat cargo related updates created a bug in station. If you open your main inventory, and have it set to a specific location on your screen, and have it pinned, well… Now it closes every single time you undock. Super annoying!

[Maldiro_Selkurk]

@Solstice_Projekt

What about citadel courier scammers?

Do you think going back to regular npc station contracts will be fine?
Do you think the citadel one was too easy?

I am not saying anything regarding the scam at hand. I am not a scammer. What I would like to know is if it has a negative impact on those who do courier scams and if you plan on introducing a new option now that you have taken one away.

The point, or TL;DR:

You guys have removed an “option” (something someone can do). As it is a general rule that having more options is always better than having less options, you should be making sure that it is really okay to remove one, because, over time, one tends to forget how many options he has already removed in the past without re-introducing new ones.

Thank you in advance…

You are forgetting that people that honestly want to set up a citadel and receive shipments via couriers that could not really do so before because the scam was preventing haulers from trusting almost all private citadels will now be able to do so with confidence of deliveries being made.

[Maldiro_Selkurk]

@Arra_Lith

Not really - new scam would be misnamed pick up station. You take contract because you know citadel name. When docked you see there is no package there, but it is on other citadel you cant dock and have 1 letter changed. Sounds familiar?
5 days asset safety timer guarantees courier contract expire.

This may or not be allowed. There is a requirement that one party may not impersonate another. Im not sure if that extends to impersonating yourself for the purpose of deception, but it possibly could.

[Maldiro_Selkurk]

I have long been concerned with the extreme imbalance between the hauler and the contract setter. The contract setters risks almost nothing while the haulers risk a fortune on most contracts. There needs to be more balance between the setters and the haulers and this change is a step in the proper direction.

[AzTrackGuy]

OMG this has been one of the best added features in a LONG time. This is a HUGH time saver even from a miners point of view, fleet orca unloads are reduced by about 75%+ by avaoiding a dock & undock & re-align out of the undock, well done CCP

[Lena_Crews]

@Arra_Lith

@Boris_Agnon

RIP courier contract scams

Not really - new scam would be misnamed pick up station. You take contract because you know citadel name. When docked you see there is no package there, but it is on other citadel you cant dock and have 1 letter changed. Sounds familiar?
5 days asset safety timer guarantees courier contract expire.

I don’t think this is an issue.

Frankly, the only current issue is that someone can deny you access after you accept a courier contract. The delivery man can be careful and avoid any other issues. In your example… they can dock at the citadel BEFORE accepting the contract.

But you can’t dock before delivering. This was the one part where the only way to avoid a potential scam is to never deliver to a citadel who’s owner you don’t know and trust.

With this you can. They may still gank you on the way, but that’s fine. I’m okay with any timer preventing delivery. As long as it’s POSSIBLE to deliver to a locked station it’s fine.

[Salt_Foambreaker]

@AzTrackGuy

OMG this has been one of the best added features in a LONG time. This is a HUGH time saver even from a miners point of view, fleet orca unloads are reduced by about 75%+ by avaoiding a dock & undock & re-align out of the undock, well done CCP

I mean really why did we ever dock in stations?

We should have always been able to electronically transfer and goods, this would also solve the whole freighter gank issue.

[Kon_Kre8r]

Haven’t you heard?
It does not matter if 80% of all veterans on EVE voted to keep the POSes.
We have never been able to plan long term, unless the new money is going to care what we say.
If the replacement CEO or the replacement Company from Korea does announce it’s willingness to give a ■■■■ what we say - PLEASE let me know ASAP!

[Acac_Sunflyier]

I LOVE the cargo deposit. It has been great for moon ore. I can use my Rorqual far from home and dump loads of ore and a deep space transport into an athanor for ease of refine. This has been an amazing little thing.