You’ve heard of inflation, right?
That you thought I was serious really makes me question if you actually play this game.
As a matter of fact, I have! I’m kinda surprised at the idea that inflation would render the value of objects relative to one another different than it had been, rather than just making them all more expensive by the inflation rate, though.
It doesn’t matter if Object A and Object B and cost 1 and 10 ISK respectively, or 50 and 500. Saying ‘this thing you guys pooled together to buy because it’s supposed to last doesn’t even cost as much as this other thing none of you can afford’ doesn’t make the thing they can’t afford any more affordable. And it doesn’t make the thing they had to pool resources to buy any more easily-replaced.
No-place in that Astrahus description do I see ‘also, this thing’s supposed to be completely disposable, so expect it’ll die at least once a week because Horde’s got a hard-on for easy killmails’.
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I didn’t think that for a moment, be sure of that. That stupid troll reply was old (and stupid) when I joined the game in 2009. But it’s a nice mechanic as well, people answering with “can I have your stuff” are usually the ones you better not touch with a 10feet pole for… reasons.
Inflation is not just the cost of things, it also results in players having more isk to spend on those things, which is why the values increase. What was expensive to you ten years ago is not expensive now in relative terms. Comparing a structure with a single ship was my point, and folks in wormholes and elsewhere are known for flying bling stuff.
The main person still arguing with me made it clear their group had multiple astrahuses and other structures in their space with their small group. To act like there are no ways for these groups to make money or fund their infrastructure is absurd, and I don’t know why you keep making this argument.
In relative terms to what? To the value of other objects? Or to how much money you think those small groups are bringing in? Because folks in wormholes were known for flying bling stuff when I lived in j-space, too. What we weren’t known for was throwing money away stupidly, which is what owning a medium structure is now.
The main person still arguing with you is the main person still arguing with you because a lot of other folks have completely written off trying to get you to see the game they’re playing. They have tried. And you have told them that you know the game at their scale, in the parts of space where they live, better than they do.
Right now Great Wildlands is apparently getting cleared of medium structures because Horde’s on a purge. Do you think anyone who lives there has the numbers to stop them if the Horde FCs are taking it at all seriously?
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EDIT: this was unfair, and I shouldn’t have said it.
Can confirm.
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replace horde with the name of any other group and you have the reality of GW for the last 20 years. What is your point exactly?
I see the game they’re playing. I have heard all their concerns. I have passed on all of their concerns. I have been listening and continue to listen.
But that does not mean, and has never meant, that I have to agree with their views simply because they have them. I don’t know why I am not entitled to my own opinions or my own views, and when I have those and share them, you guys act like I’m Hitler. It’s really, really tiring.
I’m just gonna put this out here right now, before anyone gets any crazy ideas:
Brisc and I disagree. Given our relative political persuasions, we probably disagree on a lot. 
And sometimes when people disagree, things can get heated. That’s especially true with people who know one another. You relax a little because you know the person, and something catches you off-guard, and you just react the way you would if you were talking on comms or something… it happens.
Brisc is still extremely qualified, and probably one of the most effective advocates for the EVE playerbase that we’ve ever had. If he’s masochistic enough to run again, I will definitely be voting for him, and not just because I’ll exercise my freedom to vote as the state tells me to.
Never doubt that even when he disagrees with you, he really is working to try to serve your interests. People of good character can simply disagree on how those interests are best served.
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slight correction: replace horde with the name of any other group and you have the reality of GW for the last 20 years prior to citadels being released which allowed smaller groups to drop in and live rent free in the I-hub areas controlled by the larger groups.
So much for the little guys being able to live and thrive, and spread out folks living in nullsec to areas outside of main travel routes and main blue donut staging areas.
Is this an argument that people are ok with having their baby seals clubbed to death?
They won’t because CCP doesn’t know either 1) how to change or 2) how to remove the code for them.
So essentially we’re back to POSes. Unless you want to play D2R ladder or smth and save on the 20 euro sub.
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POS’s are more like tents on a camping trip. I like the concept. They should be quick to put up and quick to take down and run off with.
As if the Donut’s Blue Meanies are going to let that happen. Where’s Sgt Pepper when you need him.
Yeah, it’s just funny that the Tents are made of steel and concrete and are armed to the teeth with automatic guns and electronic warfare defenses that can scare off a small fleet while the “Space Apartments” and other upwell structures are defenseless paper-houses that you can reinforce with a few cheap alts overnight, forcing the owner into an all-or-nothing-fight or a costly preventive evac op. Its so ridiculously stupid.
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No, it’s me pointing out, yet again, that most folks aren’t upset with these changes.
Test really, Horde a little.
It just got made a hell of a lot easier…, for reasons that no one understands?
I don’t recall Medium structures in Great Wildlands 19 years ago? You seem a mite confused?
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CCP has steadily removed virtually all content of note from GW over the past two years. Constructively removing GW structures is par for the course for CCP, and I look forward to PH/Test/whoever glassing the area and turning it into yet another empty moon mining parking lot much like FIRE already has in the other areas of GW. At some point, I imagine CCP will get around to just deleting GW and/or NPC nullsec.
Aside from inertia and “ancestral homelands” ranting, there’s not much reason to remain in the hell hole that CCP has turned GW into with all of their ridiculous changes. Although killing them faction fit moon miners is a hell of a drug.
All this talk of anchoring POS and whatnot. Why the hell would I? What is there to do in GW that I need a POS for (aside from ninja moon mining)? If you’ve got some blops, a rorqual to bridge your ninja miners, and something to gate camp in, you’ve got the full GW package already. No stations required. There’s no damn content left to do.
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None of your people were complaining, because they got more of the content they wanted, at the expense of content of other, smaller entities in other places.
I an glad you and yours are enjoying yourselves, but please don’t fall into that line of thinking that ‘my people are having fun, so nothing is wrong’. Note, I am not saying you are thinking that way, but cautioning you against it.
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