To be honest it is sad to see that EVE is going down. Talking of this topic can be just seen in many channels. Anyone can just go EVE Offline and they have a chart of online players. It is going down.
CCP made bad plan for times and we all know that.
I’m just going to say it: the idea that Sisi contributes meaningfully to subscription rates is delusional.
You can still personally value access to Sisi, but don’t overblow your disappointment into some grandiose philosophical treatise… oh, too late.
Nobody is not hurt during this chaos. Some are hurt by bad decision of CCP, and some are hurt by who post disagreement to the CCP, and some are hurt by called “cheater” or “unsociable” or “dick”.
Admit it that this topic already crashed and now only hate left to make people keep post replies. It is pointless for either side to continure.
Let’s just end it. We all already posted massive amount of arguments for CCP to consider the future of SISI and there isn’t much more to say other than keep disagree the other in turns.
older players dont tend to sub with money, they also know enough about the game to not need sisi.
newer players can only sub with money, they also need sisi the most to experiment with what they wanna do. sitting in public channels like help and abyssal lurkers for example; people ask about sisi at least 10-20 times a day. its clearly a need for new players. be honest with urself, this is just to prevent dataminers like every mmo has tried to do and punish new players in the process.
perhaps u dont use sisi but i assure u many people do
You would better don’t use EVE Offline as the sole sources for CPP situations.
While I’m post the EVE Offline, I didn’t says that is an incoming doom to EVE Online since I didn’t post more than a EVE Offline.
Whoa holy crap I had no idea eve was on the ropes like this. The player retention is the worst it’s ever been right now? Harsh
the second screenshot is reversed for comedic effect btw
Man why you guys have to flag it, now I can’t see it 
Any way just my two cents… this all seems really crazy to me why after all this time now is the time to take down sisi?
I think maybe we should just cool our jets until after fan fest, might be something in the works that makes this all make sense, though I won’t be holding my breath.
It’s 50/50 whether this is just another dumb ccp decision or actually has some logic to it. Totally do not believe it is to finally address unintended use of sisi for this besides testing, that’s total bs.
Never knew there were such harsh stances against the use of sisi, I thought everyone just kinda agreed it’s just a nifty tool
Learn something new every day I guess…
I see many comments just hidden here. This topic would be looks like not continuous now.
Good luck for later people who still want to continue this chaotic topic. I hope people don’t get involved in a pointless repeating arguments that disagree the others in turns in the future.
It is arguable that people constantly saying “it’s dying” can become a self fulfilling prophecy, since new players may explore the forums while deciding whether to invest their time, and see your comments, and all the anti-gank pampers wearers whinging.
It’s not a good look guys and if the ship does indeed go down, you’ll bear some of the responsibility, especially since similar discourse has been going on for years.
Slow drip drip drip of just concentrated downer juice.
Yep. Keep posting doom coming doesn’t solve issues but make people feels unwell. Know this situation isn’t means people have to bringing it up here.
At least here, make this thread delicated for talking the future of SISI. The topic of the futre of EVE Online will find other channel to continue.
i agree, this isnt a thread about if eve is dying or not
If they are that risk averse and need hand holding then they probably aren’t the right sort of customer as they will just quit the first time their new expensive content is ganked, also, what expensive content is a new player even going to be testing on SISI, if you’re too poor to risk it on TQ then what is the point of testing it on SISI?
You know the rule, don’t fly what you can’t afford to lose
Except you literally did that thing you are claiming to be false lol
Albeit you did it on SISI instead of risking an actual hull like the risk averse player that you appear to be, but someone would have tested it on TQ if you hadn’t, thats just a simple fact 
Again, your acceptance isn’t required for this change, you’re allowed to dislike the change, the same as people have disliked changes over the last 2 decades, that won’t stop things from changing
Yes we all do, as much as you have the right to incorrectly whine about something i have the right to correct you on it, we both have the same rights here
Because its not a harm to the actual game, its going to negatively impact the super risk averse players who are probably playing the wrong game if they don’t want to undock and rick losing a ship to test things
Then you’re doing a poor job of explaining it, what costs are you referring to
What you mean is you would rather i stop demonstrating why you’re wrong so you can claim to be right when you are infact not, yes you have the rights to disagree and i have the right to tell you to suck it up and grow as a player
No its an example of demonstrating to the player that flying a ship entails risk and that they can end up losing their pretty new ship in unexpected ways and that the normal response to this should be to pick yourself up and keep going, so no its not going to be used against me unfortunately for you
Where have i nullified the work required? i demonstrated that you will need to put work in to things if you want people to take you seriously
No i understood that what you wanted was for CCP to subsidise your experimentation because you are, as pointed out, extremely risk averse, its not impossible for them to do, but it wouldn’t have the effect you think it would because everything would just become more expensive to compensate it, just as items have due to isk inflation, not that i would expect you to understand the nuances of the ingame economy when your idea of testing things is with 100isk items on SISI lol
No i just cut to the point, SISI isn’t there as a learning tool, its there as a bug hunting and new feature testing tool, not for you to spend time throwing fits at things because you can’t stand to explode on TQ
I mean, you won’t let it end here, you’ll keep replying because you’re incorrectly convinced you’re right
Why do i need a reason to correct misinformation and a fundamental misunderstanding of the game?
I’m not wounded by your lack of knowledge, if i’m honest i find it amusing to read and it further reminds me how entitled people these days actually are
I do understand that, and what part of it being a game means your choices ingame don’t have ingame consequences?
You lose a ship to a mission because you didn’t fit the right tank, consequence of your own actions
You jumped in to null sec and landed in a bubble because you didn’t scout the area, consequence of your own actions
You missclicked and bought 20 shuttles instead of 2, consequences of your own actions
So i’m not sure what it being a game actually has to do with anything
u do understand the difference between a mistake and consequence right?
yes but then those people would come on to tranquility and try it, now instead newer players to a particular form of content simply wont try it instead then you wont get the chance to blow them up on TQ when they try run it there.
see, that is consequence
Consequence, a result of a particular action or situation, often one that is bad or not convenient
Mistake, an action, decision, or judgement that produces an unwanted or unintentional result
So, your mistake leads to a consequence, is that clear enough?
That isn’t a reply to your comments. The one was talk to already ends his topic. Don’t be so eager to think everything is there to against you.
There is a majority of your references are cutting others sentence in half or simply ignore context around it. All your problems are already answered before. Regardless your mind of restricted view can understand it not, there are no more explain for you.