The entire thread has no people says they agree with “anti ganking” for “Think of the new players” is right. What you are targeting is not exist here.
CCP literally prohibits greifing of new players… so… that argument is pretty dumb
Oh look, one person who denies what was said up thread, and another who says „ganking is griefing“.
Scraping the very bottom of the barrel.
Cause it is not us define it is right or wrong. That is a CCP decleared violation of game policies and breaking it will cause gamemasters to interfere.
prohibits implies they prevent it before that happens, we both know all they’ll do is punishment after the fact
Rumours of Eve’s death are greatly exaggerated.
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people said the game was dying like 5 months after release apparently
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u need to take a step back and understand this is a game. consequences of what? trying out vanilla before chocolate is a conesquence to u?
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I’m not every new player, but my experience as a recent one gives me substantially more weight than you in this thread regarding it. I’m also drawing a huge doubt on your claims that most newer players know what or use sisi for pvp. I’ve been in null and lowsec pvp corps and it has never been used to teach new players. Common experience, is that new players are taken out on roams in cheap tackle or logi. Not the test server.
I think you’re lying to prop up your doomposting about Eve dying.
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You both are going too far.
Before you are going to launch more attacks I will point that you are now actively do damage to others.
I told him that earlier basically, I’m an 11 year old account that’s never logged into testnet and didn’t even know there was one for years. He’s just making strawmen and then burning them.
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I get called a dick multiple times, and I’m the one that needs policing by your imagined authority?
My „attack“ of simply having the opinion „skipping losses on TQ by playing on Sisi is Bad and Cheaty“ that threatening?
Wow. Toughen up.
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I suggest you just get over the “new players on SISI” issue. Appearly SISI up or down have much more effects than “EVE out of new players” problem.
“You both”. He don’t do it right either.
And I am giving you an opinion that says this is fundamentally wrong. And claim it actually hurts „the newbs“. And you’re ignoring it.
What did you say about ignoring opinions? 
Your words, not mine.
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Imagine using the poor to push your argument.
and you’re calling everyone else dicks?
Sir, this is reality.
I agree with that some of you are just hating. “Because that is the eve culture”
Poor culture.
Look i dont have to make up Anything the numbers are there, its public information look up new subscriptions and total subscriptions month over month and year over year all is in decline, combined with increasing of sub prices and the increasing of purchasable content and now turning off a sever for a cheaper light bill
One doesn’t have to be a genius to see the game and CCP as a whole is in decline, again its all public. You call it doom posting i call it stating facts.
Thes facts are Eve is in decline… and to reverese decline you need more subscriptions
Can we agree on that? I mean thats the root of business, more money in than money out right?
So if we can agree on that the we should be able to agree anything that says to new players “eve isn’t for you” or make the gameplay harder is a step in the wrong direction right? Can ee agree on that as well?
You may not believe sisi is one of the things that contribute to that but i believe it does… and even if it is very minimal it is stil the wrong direction
Prove it.
Don’t tell people they’re wrong, show them, get your data linked.
Also feel free to show the court on the doll where anyone from CCP has stated the server was shut down “for the light bill” because that’s total horse unless verified.
If you can’t prove it, stop typing.
It is not hate.
But at this point in the conversation, I have zero expectations that you or Glenn have the open mind to figure out how so.
It’s much easier to call people dicks and say „the other side is full of hate“ than actually acknowledge the other side.
Like I get y’all are hurt. It sucks but I’m 100% sure it’s for the betterment of the game. My viewpoint is clearly bothersome and worthy of like 50 posts of anything but constructive dialogue from y’all.
Good luck getting sympathy. From things I’ve seen on various community discords, you’re gonna need all the luck you can get.
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