Why should it cause any embarrassment to anyone, what does it matter if you lose a ship? If it takes a month to replace then maybe you need to evaluate if the risk is worth the reward.
The new escalations that were released last week need caps to be done, which cost more than a marauder, no-one was able to test them on Sisi first, so guess what…
They tried them on the actual server.
Alas, I sympathize with everyone who is left in this misunderstanding)) it must be fun to play when your main enemy is not an NPC or a player but a developer)) I wish you good luck)
Your correct that people in general not just on here want things can can deteriorate game play for all, and it is imperative for developers to protect their product. The back an forth here would go on till the cows come home. If I were to make a statement such as your wrong about it hurting the game, I could cite hard data from EVE-Offline :: EVE-Online Status monitor and show that highest login numbers were while sisi was open. I could then say your just making emotional or opinionated statements which are not based in fact which is probably what 99% of people would do and that Sisi login numbers were never alarming to the point that you would wonder why is everyone going over there.
Instead I am going to say that people enjoy things differently, that’s the part that gets lost. Some think it hurts the game, some will disagree and that’s okay too. Why care what people wanna “test” whether in a dangerous environment or a safer one. Ultimately they will have to enjoy that same content in the not so safe environment so you will eventually get your wish too.
I only pulled this quote cause it sort of buts up to this, is the denial of content “for some” in this sense. The people who were brave enough to try the new content hats off to them, i’m sure they theory crafted as much as they could, and most likely could afford to lose what they were flying. The old adage “don’t fly what you cant afford to lose” also means your not going to know what it’s like for a long time unless they were allowed to “test” it and at least see. You could also test content on live with friends to test it’s difficulty and then theory craft from there, welp some people don’t have friends lol, it doesn’t make them any lesser, they just want to do things alone if they can and yeah some content is not meant or not possible to be done solo so there is that.
Maybe folks may think that all the free injectors on sisi takes money out of the actual game cause you can get it for basically free, and then some might argue that they may find something they love on sisi and inject their way to it on live. In the end it doesn’t matter whether I think or you think we are wrong or right. There is a solution for both sides with this particular topic, fix the issue and reopen the server. Both sides still get what they want.
Market/items on sisi had zero impact on TQ. Including injectors
IDK man one might argue they liked a Rokh battleship so much on sisi when testing it that they went on TQ and bought one thus impacting the market on TQ.
I swear I don’t mean it but if you read my other crap you got my point. I think most folks on here want the same thing for the game but enjoy the game in different ways.
Well I mean they could just offset the builds between the two as “theoretical” then people can make decisions on purchasing.
But then again…that would also make people scrutinize any event or the CSM for any little bit of information that leaks out.
But testing has its place on SISI, but its a bit of a cop out at the moment. And frustrating when certain problems are now direct to Tranquility wise from a QA perspective.
what do you mean by this 
without risking hundred of millions as these " bugs " shouldnt be getting moved over to TQ if people can play on sisi therefor we can report then " bugs " get sorted quicker and i have learnt lots on Sisi and practiced in tq ( t2 ) fits for solo pvp people taught me a lot about transversal etc etc @CCP_Swift please bring it back people learnt a lot from it and people had a lot of fun on there messing around such as myself and it is unfair to those who just want to have fun but no-longer can without risking billions because of being untrained and i skill injected into ships because i wanted to test them b4 wasting my time learning/spending money on the skill if it is a bad skill/asset towards something so please bring back sisi. i think its a bad thing you have done and a lot of people have quit the game because you have removed the fun please bring it back.
everything you wrote is the exact reason why it was limited to mass testing.
mine was more details but yes it is and it just proves more points on perspectives
An obvious money making scheme. We used to test expensive fits on Singularity. CCP wants more ISK destroyed so people have to replace it.
This has nothing to do with testing, it is all about money. CCP is a business and they want money. It sucks but it is their game.
I have always had a love/hate relationship with Eve. Great game, horrible company.
I will say that I am glad they finally redesigned the ships, got rid of the captain’s quarters, and several other changes they were stuck on for years and years. Especially the ships. The ships are actually really nice now. They all looked like literal space junk before. The players complained about that for over a decade, and it made ZERO difference to the devs.
The devs love sticking it the face of the players. I’ve always assumed that their attitude was so hostile and dismissive because they live in a crappy country like Iceland. Who even creates a game where there is no safe zone besides misanthropes?
But this move with SISI takes the cake. It really, really sucks. What a terrible company!
Although it is not limited to CCP. This game attracts the worst people in gaming. It is the least agreeable group of people I have ever encountered. The regulars on this game are generally antisocial and malicious. Villains are not that much fun to play with.
I will probably get frustrated with CCP pretty soon and quit for a few years like I have done since 2008. Then I will come back for a few months to see what new annoying things CCP did to mess up the game.
AI is making it possible for games to be created more easily and cheaper. Perhaps a better space sci-fi MMORPG with come along so I can quit Eve for good. I would love to put it in the rearview.
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I’d sure like to know how that’s working out for them. Not that they would ever reveal it of course, but I’m curious. I doubt it will work. I don’t think too many people are going to be stupid enough to get themselves killed testing. Most likely we’ll just fly boring fits.
As for the really expensive ships and fits I simply don’t have the funds to buy them on TQ, and I never will. I have ships that haven’t been undocked for more than a decade because I don’t want to give anyone a billion ISK killmail.
I play poker quite often, and even though I can afford to play a $10,000 hand I never will because I simply don’t want someone to laugh at me while they are scooping $10K of my money into their pile.
That said, I am not the same as the core Eve players. They simply are not people that I understand nor could they understand me, so maybe this doesn’t bother them, or maybe they even like it. Of course, it doesn’t matter what they like, CCP always has done whatever it wants, and always will.
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Should we expect more mass tests on singularity this year?
The main reason for the closure of the test server was the closure of the ability to build supers and titans, along with the fact that we were deprived of the opportunity to sweat the same new mechanics of sovereignty and their upgrades, to sweat fit the same t2 dreadnoughts (lance) and other ships the same. CCP decided to solve cardinally and close access to the server to all but their employees. Which is wrong. I understand that the company is interested in maximizing profits but everything must be a measure and a limit.
Just bring it back already.
Tell players that SiSi is an “as is” server and there’s to be NO complaing about it.
We need to test things as well.
Pretty skewed logic if they think this will generate more plex sales. On the contrary I am now likely to never spend another penny on this company that clearly has no respect for it’s player base. Actions have consequences and your player base is not a cash cow you can endlessly milk without regard for how you treat them.
Edit: It seems this entire subforum is now actively censored form anyone disagreeing with this abuse of the players. All posts made on it will be accused of “Ranting” and quickly locked. That is supposed to keep the money flowing in apparently?
That’s the good way to think about it, voting with your wallet, unfortunately most people don’t, thus companies (not just CCP) can get away with almost anything nowadays.
Furthermore, even worse, newer generations grow up under these conditions and to them this is the norm thus are much less likely to stand up for themselves and say no, which means companies over time will be able to get away with much worse also and not many will care to oppose them, thus slowly it will become the norm and the cycle continues.
If you come on here and say “omg ccp fckinsux my ship was nerfed why why why?” Yea thats not constructive and will be removed.
Thats what a lot of people do,
CCP should allow SiSi but only for $100/mo and its limited access to just T1 ships. If you want anything beyond that, another $100/mo 
I don’t understand why SiSi is closed to the public, it was the majority of the playerbase’s testing grounds and combat zone for players who simply wanted to “Fly the big ships” as not everyone has hundreds of dollars to fork over to get omega and then spend a ridiculous amount of isk on caps or carriers, or insane builds, i believe the majority of us don’t have hours to sink into grinding for isk from scratch or investing in an account with multiple years of skills.
SiSi was a perfect balance between “Non-profit” and “profit” in the eyes of CCP as it allowed players to bring out incredibly expensive builds and ships risk free, CCP, please make SiSi accessible to the playerbase again, it’d make a decent majority of us players satisfactory again.