Smart assistant in EVE?

No thats just a skill you’ll need to develop

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There are possible applications for AI. Programming? Absolutely. I’m not an IT guy, but we were taught programming in high school and I know that’s not anything anybody dreams about doing even if they are good at it. I can see how AI will simplify matters there and be of use.

Writing poetry/anything else creative? No. Human creativity is fascinating exactly because it was created by another human being, and their works will allow one person to connect with an inner world and mindset/emotions of another. That’s not what AI can ever achieve, nor should be trying to do, no matter how ‘‘technologically advanced’’ it may be.

Writing forum responses for you? No.

Giving relationship advice? Absolutely not! Now that is next level idiocy. I don’t approve of people using AI to write their homework assignments or essays or the like either, but I understand what drives people to use AI for that purpose (because then they don’t have to do the ‘work’). But using AI for relationship advice, psychological counsel, etc – that is outright retarded. And there are people who do that. And there have been disastrous results. Predictably.


People are using this ‘‘tool’’ as if it’s going to solve all the problems in the world and in their lives. The reality is, AI has limited uses to which it can be successfully and ethically applied. It doesn’t help that the people who developed it don’t acknowledge it at all and encourage misuse. It’s like going to a pharmacy and blindly grabbing a random drug off the shelf for whatever you’re suffering from. Sure, most of the time the drug won’t harm you and you might even feel better. Rarely you might even grab a correct drug for your problem and get treated. Other times you will just end up with plain wrong pills for your condition with disastrous results.

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i am ok to hit V for D-scan every 2 secs…but, if there is a better and smarter way, why not?

Because there isn’t a better and smarter way, watching d-scan is meant to be YOUR job as a player, if you die its because you weren’t paying attention, not because siri told you to run away while you were distracted

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You’re describing Rookie Chat, which already contains AI (Actual Intelligence).

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ok, i am sure you’ve spent much more time on this game than i do…however, let’s agree to disagree.

1: Pay attention to your dscan and overview. Seriously. Pay attention.

2: Pay attention to everything around you. Develop and use Situational Awareness. It is going to help keep you from becoming the pretty fireworks in the sky as you go boom.

3: Never assume that any ship landing on grid is harmless. It is not.. Refer to 2.

4: Use Rookie chat. You can ask any question and get a decent answers. That is more useful than a Jita hypernet relay scammer telling you, that of course you are going to win.

5: If you feel you want to learn more than what Rookie chat has to offer. There are plenty of corps that teach. Eve Uni is the oldest and does a good job of teaching.

6: Research and do not be afraid to ask questions of a recruiter for a corp that you are thinking of joining. If you do not like what you are hearing do not be afraid to move on to the next.

7: If a recruiter from a corp is constantly after you to join their wonderful corp. Don’t. Just don’t. You will thank me later.

Finally if you want to know something. There plenty of places to look, From eveuni wiki pages to the workbench for different hulls to different third party market tools. This game is not sometimes referred to as spaceships and spreadsheets for nothing.

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thanks, these all good stuff, and i get alot from these tools. Again, i am not here to ask how this game works and tips, but think what change can be made to make it more fun and newbie friendly..

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Well sorry to say this game is very demanding and can be rather unforgiving of mistakes. New player retention has been an ongoing discussion with CCP.

However if you think that CCP is going to be able to put an AI that is not garbage.. You are indeed new. The only real reason that dscan and the overview work at all is that there are third party overviews that are better than the one you get when come into the game.

But still if you have an idea. Let the devs know. Most likely it is one they have heard and read before. Who knows you might have the answer that everyone has been asking for all this time. Anything is possible.

yeah, you got a point, they should have already heard of it, i guess this is not something they interested in …

@Meridan_Night I agree with the majority of your post. A.I isn’t the promised tool that will save us out of Egypt and I’m not aware whether or not people think of it as a miracle come to save all aspects of their lives, I’m not so interested in the idiocies of others as I try to deal with my own.
I don’t really use A.I, I’m exploring its capabilities and shortfalls for now. Mostly I take advantage of it to save time in searches. I do a lot of research online for personal and health purposes and it has literally saved me not hours but days. Everytime I use it I learn something new and I love learning new things.

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At least yet, maybe ever, perhaps it will be the doom of us all in the end, who knows. Anyhow it sure has a long way to advance before it will be a savior of any kind, but maybe it is just a matter of time, we’ll see. Either case it will all depend on how people use, safeguard and react to it. :thinking:

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I am not trying to discourage you. I am sure AI has come up. But if you do have an idea. Perhaps you have a unique or new idea as to how it might work. Maybe even have an idea that has not been considered in a new light. AI happens to be the newest shiny pretty that a lot of people are falling over themselves. You could have the beginnings of a good idea.

As you play and learn more about this game. Gaining experience of how things work and don’t. Your idea might grow as you gain better insight. Might be how to improve the game. That is until the devs screw it up and we need third party tools to get it to work right anyways.. LOL

We start to get into Eula violations about automating things.

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well, i was gas huffing in WH today and got blown up, and the guy told me to keep my finger on DSCAN…now i kinda know the idea, as long as i refresh my scan, it is not that easy to catch me anymore…

We can’t even sort local by standings. Do you think CCP is capable of creating an “Assistant”?

EVE Online still runs on legacy code from its early 2000s origins.

CCP Games has been open about this over the years. While they’ve refactored and replaced parts of the codebase over time — especially around the UI, physics, and rendering engine — a core portion of the server and gameplay logic (often called “Dogma” code) remains rooted in the original architecture.

Here’s the breakdown:

  • Tranquility Server Backend: Much of the simulation and logic (modules, skills, targeting, damage, etc.) still uses original or lightly refactored code.
  • “Spaghetti Code” Admissions: CCP devs have admitted in devblogs and fanfests that areas like crimewatch, tethering, and aggression mechanics are built on code that’s fragile or convoluted, due to decades of band-aid fixes.
  • Incarna Fallout: Part of why “Walking in Stations” (Incarna) flopped is because it exposed how difficult it was to bolt new systems onto the legacy base.
  • EVE’s Engine (Carbon / Python mix): EVE runs heavily on a stack of Python, with some of the original Python 2 code still being incrementally modernized. EVE’s game logic uses stackless Python, which isn’t common anymore.

Has any of it been rebuilt?

Yes, CCP has done selective rewrites:

  • The graphics engine (Carbon) has been overhauled.
  • The UI was refactored into Photon UI.
  • Fleet warp, industry, and inventory systems have been partially rewritten.
  • Some backend services (like chat and login) now run on separate microservices/cloud infrastructure.

Why not rewrite the whole thing?

Because:

  • EVE is a live, 20+ year-old MMO with complex interdependencies.
  • A full rewrite would be a massive, years-long undertaking — and risk breaking core gameplay that players rely on.
  • It’s the classic “Ship of Theseus” problem in software.

Bottom line:
EVE Online is running on the bones of its 2003 self, with a Frankenstein blend of modern code layered on top. CCP is slowly replacing parts as needed, but the legacy is still alive and well — for better and worse.

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maybe AI just give advice but take no action, still your call to act…

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that is alot to read, lol. yes, i admit any changes to big legacy code base is not small feat., people incline to stay in the comfort zone where things maybe sub-optimal, but work…disruptions often comes from outside other than within…and until then, you’ll be in a passive situation to catch up with new things

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That would imply there was a debate, players always have to be the ones to initiate actions as per the rules, hence CCP won’t be adding any kind of AI to alert you to things, its called learning to play the game

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