what about two vets competing ? how is their basis any different from what I wrote ? one of them will have an advantage or, even better, create an advantage. Is the one who loses a “low hanging fruit” as you put it ? Should he receive more sp perhaps ? This would hardly be helpful.
what about two newbies competing ? Is that competition any different to the competition between vets ? Of course it’s not. The same basis applies. The one who picked right gets the advantage.
what about any pair flying identical ships using identical levels of skills etc etc ? The outcome again is determined by who makes all the right choices, or at least not a single lethal mistake.
Nothing here points at SP, everything at knowledge and experience, from a simple proof of reductio ad absurdum.
less tedious by how much ? hours, days, or do you want years less training ? where does it start or end, when is enough enough ? It will never be enough, because there will always be players, new and old, who look for reasons that are to be found anywhere but within themselves. I’ve said on several occasions that EvE holds up a mirror to the player, and haven’t seen anything to the contrary.
And getting a foot in the door by an argument of “what we suggest I so small you veterans wouldn’t even notice”, as some did ? If it’s so small it shouldn’t even be suggested. So let’s not kid ourselves.
If those people would wait until they are ready i.e., skilled and experienced enough, to engage in the level of encounters that you seem to suggest, while learning to find the situations they themselves fit competitively into (as all of us have to…l) they would become players to fear later on.
Poetry has nothing to do with a kid asking for a sportscar when he’s still applying for a driver’s license. This has nothing to do with vets trying to gate keep, because there wouldn’t be better players coming through, only juicier, bolder and falsely reassured newer targets who are going to lose their now inflated ships. At most some of us here are guilty of acting like a responsible parent telling the kid “no, bad idea, you’ll understand later”.
And of course it has to come to that, doesn’t it. Let me tell you, with the three omega accounts, what I do is on one single account. I pay my dues to the group I chose to join, as I have always done, and that involves large fleet activities, just as it may include ice mining or doing PI. The rest of my time is spent on replacing my losses and investing into the next steps of my progress, while keeping my wallet balanced. Unless I spend even more time than I already do, it’s true, I have far less time available for solo hunting than I desire. If that makes you feel better on the basis of your zkillboard, I’m glad I’ve been of service, although I fail to see what difference it makes to the validity of my argument against more free SP or skill levels.
No, the “you” was not for you specifically. Granted, I should have used “one”, but that should have been clear.
Fortunately there are some gate keepers for a good discussion with the folks who make requests we think are unreasonable or worse.
And it looks like your latter has precedent. Is it a usual occurrence?