What was the thing you raised and had confirmed as an exploit?
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it’s opsec unless you turn out as delusional as him 
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Yes, good point.
OP initial post is nevertheless so lame, it’s the first time I see a rage quit like that. However CCP is doing a very poor job fighting “exploits”, they should fix mechanics and not perm-ban characters. If you need to perm-ban, it means you are incapable of cleaning your own laundry.
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I almost sent you the mail I sent Salvos with details of the petition, but then I remembered that you posted something I said in a mail when you got a bit heated in a debate and therefore I won’t.
As for Dom’s comment, I did actually tell the gankers concerned that it was an exploit but they begged to differ, so if he wants to start quoting opsec then he can, bothers me not.
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you got nothing
That’s why you keep making claims without delivering
That was easy, case closed
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you should add something into this consideration.
for every griefer in the game, there is a carebear who communicates in the same ways, but without the ganks. They make fun of people, they see tears where there are none, they think they’re the better people. What the “evil” don’t do, though, is wishing carebears and their families illnessess and death, or being raped. they don’t issue death threats either.
I suggest you try again, without bias, and gather more facts. the forums are full of them. there’s ego trippers on both sides. there’s ego tripping gankbears and carebears and they all deserve a big fat slap with the banhammer for behaving like stupid, insecure teenagers ruining the atmosphere for everyone else.
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Darn, and not a single isk for Operation Magic School Bus?
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Cuck?
Cuck?
Oooh man, you just went full retard.
Why did you go full retard?
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Yeah, but…
Let’s be briefly honest here… the death threats, the rape threats, the family threats, the fury and rage and anger…
These are exactly what the griefer is looking to see. This is precisely the reaction that is being goaded towards, and if they don’t get this “hilarious salt”, they’ll just keep pushing until they do.
That’s one of the bits that I have always found to be quite disingenuous about professional gankers. They’re so quick to point out the frothy rage, and Line crossing anger that their victims sperg, and we are all supposed to pretend like that wasn’t the entire point of it.
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Who are the griefers?
It’s a statistical impossibility that 100% gankers, scammers, ninja looters, thiefs, bumpers and afk cloakers are out for your tears. Yet you declare them all as evil.
Plus, you defend the actions of those who say the insults etc, ignoring that they do that to everyone. When you look at it, then you’ll see that the gankers, who are getting most grief, are a tiny, tiny minority of people under constant attack by a big amont of carebears.
One especially self righteous one once even declared he’d burn down a whole wood just because of a single wolf! He was exactly one of those who do not see the difference between reality and a game.
Another point is that no one forces them to react that way. there is no ratio alit ehind reacting like this, especially in a game wnere it’s strictly allowed! you make it sound like those who stay inside the game force others to behave as if they really did a harm to anyone. They don’t! Yet those who give grief behave as if this game was real life, and treat those sho shoot them as if they were monsters!
You see them on the forums, spreading lies, spreading logical fallacies, and also behavinglike those they claim to hate, minus the ganking!
Seriously, just look at the proportions, the behaviour and the reasoning! There is no way that the bears are the good guys in this equation!
I say ban all the ego trippers. Ban them all, on both sides of the equation, so we can finally have progress!
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I’m not sure if you responding to me, but nowhere in anything that I typed did I say that “all gankers were evil”, nor did I defend anything “care bears” did.
But I will state that all gankers were out for tears. There has never been a single time where a ganker ganked somebody, received tears, and was not at least a little bit pleased with it. You are correct, that some people gank for-profit, some people gank for other reasons, but 100% of the time tears are an okay reward for the actions.
Try not to misrepresent what I’m saying here. I’m not saying ganking is evil or bad. I’m merely honestly describing it.
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Good riddance. Don’t come back.
One less griefer to deal with.
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i’m sorry, i’m on my phone and made a mistake regarding who responded.
when the ganker ganks, and the victim tears, the ganker teases. because it’s immature.
when the ganker starts first, then he’s an asshole as well.
you have to consider who starts it. the act of ganking shouldn’t create tears in the first place. and anyone who cries, or ganks and sends a provokative, or teasing mail afterwards, or sees tears where there are none, should just get wiped. and no, in case someone brings it up: CODE’s claim for territory is completely legitimate. overreacting to that means people don’t understand that it’s a game! they just always make it about real life.
i don’t know if you know, but this topic has been the same since forever. since even before EVE. it is always the same and it’s always about feelings people put into a videogame. on both sides there are immature assboles and this situation will only change if we get rid of them alltogether.
See? i’d wipe her, for example, out off the game without second thought, because she’s toxic. and this should be the norm.
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i have one question about this.
what if they plugged the hole, and set up a trigger for an alarm when someone tries to do it? then they’d catch him doing it, CONCORD’s response time would still appear normal and he’d still get banned for attempting to use an exploit.
Does that sound plausible to you? it absolutely does for me.
You know, lately your forum posting is getting more and more toxic everyday. The only reason I can think of for you to constantly white-knight for gankers and griefers in every thread is because you also engage in that type of game play activity.
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Stating the truth doesn’t make him toxic, it makes him wise
He’s on no one’s side, but he sees that the side crying about toxicity usually is the more toxic one
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Since the normal time is dependent on whether CONCORD are spawning for the first time, or are already in system, I think I’d prefer a slightly different option if CCP were to change it.
The shortest response time (without CONCORD already on grid) is when CONCORD spawns.
So if there was a change, CCP should just make it that any criminal act spawns new CONCORD every tIme and any existing CONCORD would be garbage collected and removed from the system.
That way, CONCORD could be moved off grid, but their response time would always be the same regardless.
Gankers would know the times and could adapt to that.
Well, what some perceive as truth others perceive as lies.
I’m glad CCP started banning players who for years have taken advantage of poor game mechanics and exploited it to their advantage. That’s something CCP should have been doing a long time ago.
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that makes no sense to me. there is nothing toxic about me wanting to have the toxic people on both sides, as i’ve stated several times, to be removed from the game and the board.
Where you see pro-ganker, there only is anti-toxic.
if you look through all examples ever, then you will find that both sides have ego trippers who need to be erased from the game. people who deliberately cause toxic behaviour, or deliberately react toxically to completely legitimate in game behaviour. suicide ganking and claiming that highsec is yours aren’t legitimate reasons to be overly negatively expressive and pulling it into real life.
sending a victim a mail doesn’t mean it’s to deliberately make them angry and even IF, that doesn’t give people the right to be toxic! where is any intelligence behind that anyway? are people so dumb, that they can only react emotionally, instead of showing some wit or sucking it up?
no, i’m not favouring the griefers amongst gankers. when you’re so stupid, that you only see tears and cries in reasonable posts, then you’re toxic and should be erased. when you gank someone and then try to mine tears to increase or cause toxic behaviour, then i say plant the banhammer on his head. not every contact attempt is a call for tears, though, yet there are people overreacting to them anyway. Banhammer just as much; and done with it.
i say ban each and every one of them, on both sides, and then let’s move on.
PS: and on the forums it should be the same. ban overly passive aggressive behaviour that drags threads down; ban people who back-and-forth endlessly, eventually destroying threads; BAN ALL CAM ALTS … i don’t even need to explain that one.
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