Solution to suicide gankers?

[Altesse_Tsukaya]

Ah yes because there is only 1 person advocating against ganks of course, you think very highly of yourself, you probably think you are super smart or something.

Sorry to break it to you but i am me and i am posting with my main character.

Can only expect so much from a code worshipper

[Sasha_Nemtsov]

@Sasha_Nemtsov

This was @Cilla_Cybin,

I may have that wrong. If so, sincere apologies @Altesse_Tsukaya.

Cilla was, I think, @Altara_Zemara.

I’ll amend my post.

[Sasha_Nemtsov]

Sorry, Altesse.

[Aisha_Katalen]

Altesse is Safira Jomita’s alt. So when he’s talking about “multiple characters” and probably also “echo chambers” just know it’s just projection.

[Altesse_Tsukaya]

You got some other joke in store? I once was in safira’s corp and he was a good friend but those days are over.

Still figuring out who i am (since apparently being me is not a possibility, check my zkillboard maybe?) doesnt change anything about my arguments

[Uriel_the_Flame]

Oh my this is getting more and more interesting.

[Shipwreck_Jones]

@wolfstallion

i just feel like a capital hauler that would be a lot harder to gank would be a better idea because all economics stay within a very few select stations making it very hard for any new person to get into it since they dont have 10 spam bots and it also makes it more annoying to try and get new t2 ships and other t2 items that are not really sold anywhere else.

First, I region traded as a relatively new player (iirc, around 3-18months old). So, I dispute the idea that we need to drop atom bombs on a play style, and make it possible for people to haul in perfect safety in order to allow people to get into region trading.

Second, did I read that right? Did you just argue that we need a capital hauler because it’s hard for new players to get into trading?

Ugh. @Uriel_the_Flame Why did you drag me into this nonsense? I’m four posts in, and I’m already out of patience.

Sigh. I got too much stuff on my plate right now. I’m going to sit out the rest of this nerd fight.

[Uriel_the_Flame]

It’s too late you are fully in right now, there is no escape.

[Shipwreck_Jones]

[Adm_Malkaviano]

Now in a high slot, for the right price, at the closest market HUB. BUY NOW limited time offer.

[tutucox_Khamsi]

@Kezrai_Charzai

CCP3: “But wait, won’t that lead to almost all new players quitting the game in sheer frustration due to struggling against long-established, full-skilled players right out the gate?”

[Grimm_Reborn]

@Altesse_Tsukaya

Most people dont play games to risk stuff but to achieve something or to have fun, gankers are a nuisance in both cases, only exception is for like-minded people that might become gankers, which is a vast minority

Maybe, just maybe, this game isn’t for “most people”. Maybe what you are really looking for a a nice, safe, single player game. While I don’t like being ganked and i haven’t tried ganking, it does add an element of risk making the game a little more enjoyable. If I want risk free, I can fire up Master of Orion.

[Uriel_the_Flame]

@Grimm_Reborn

Master of Orion II

FTFY

[Etch_Masuka]

Part of me really really really wants to get involved in this thread.

Another part of me doesn’t think I can handle dealing with this nonsense yet again.

Choices choices

[Uriel_the_Flame]

HTFU and participate, you know you want to!

[Max_Deveron]

@Altesse_Tsukaya

hear is someone that wants to gatekeep the game against new players

no, just the stupid, the lazy, the entitled, the ones that think they can reap benefits off someone elses efforts without putting in effort themselves…that effort sometimes means reading stuff…

and sometimes it means STFU and listening to what a veteran is telling you.

[Gergoran_Moussou]

Calm down, miner.

[Ezra_Pouind]

Are newbies (who have not had the time to gain hundreds of millions of isk) actually being ganked over and over while hauling their veldspare to the market to sell, or are these complaints coming from lazy veterans who feel dumb because their leopard with the corporation’s BPO’s got ganked?

I have been mining in my venture, and seen the barge next to me get ganked while the ganker’s did not bother with my venture. I question the basic premise that scores of newbies are getting ganked so often that they rage quit. Why would suicide gankers even bother ganking new bros (who aren’t hauling BPO or large skill injectors etc.)?

I question the basic premise of this thread. I think these are the complaints of veterans who got lazy and now feel dumb and angry because their leopard got shot while they were auto piloting it.

[Gideon_Mastracci]

You can lose your ship ergo its only fun for psychos ergo it has a low population

What a bunch of moralistic twaddle. The harsh nature of the game is why many people are drawn to it. Yes, there is a line between ganking and griefing, and it’s grey and one is legit while the other should be suppressed. But the argument ‘I’ve worked weeks for this ship only to lose it in a second’ mainly tells me you should probably find a PVE game, friend.

To add a more constructive reply:
I suspect the economy would precisely suffer if you could load a max expanded Itty V with 25bil worth of stuff and autopilot it to new places while you sleep. Hauling is a thing precisely because there is no magic like that. Not sure what it’d do with prices but I think slowing down the movement of goods by making it dangerous is a good idea overall.

[Skyla_Amarr]

Check my zkill. I mine in low sec and sometimes null.

If you fit a ship properly you will never get ganked and the fking mental thing is that gankers are some of the nicest people i have spoken to