Hm. I bet you can do that posthumously, though?
I mean the Amarr faith would probably be a MUCH bigger issue in the Federation if in order to convert people had to swear literal fealty to a foreign government. That’d slow missionary efforts down awfully.
Is it not nationalism to believe your own are right at the expense of others? Seems to be a narrow view to only view it in the context of war. I would argue that as the Amarr empire is a theocracy their religion would be a rallying cry for their own nationalism, that the horrors of the day of darkness, the centries of enslavement and eventual emancipation and founding of our government a rallying cry for the Republic’s.
Would you really say nationalism can only exist through the context of war alone? For us I see our self preservation and Amarr as elevating ones station in the eyes of their god as defining the culture they are cultivating via national superiority, or nationalism at least from how I would think of it.
If I’m wrong, I’m wrong, that’s been my understanding however.
Hm. Well … to me “nationalism” is basically just a particular type of pride, the sort focused on one’s own nation-state. It doesn’t matter so much where it comes from, but it frequently turns militant even if it wasn’t supposed to be, because nation-states fundamentally exist in a state of anarchy among themselves and a surfeit of pride (and self-perceived strength) tends to lead to a state throwing its weight around.
Usually you need just enough to keep people associated with a given nation-state more or less loyal to each other, or to the nation-state itself, rather than reverting to more primordial models of human loyalty (family, village, tribe [not the modern Matari tribe, which is basically an ethnic sub-state]). That’s about where you want it for, like, the Federation. Start adding more, and pretty soon you get militarism and … well, war.
The #1 reason for Republic’s existence is to never be under Amarr or anyone elses foot again. Never. If you think the Republic is standing down from fighting a war, you’re mistaken, and badly. Yet, Republic knows it cannot win in a fair 1vs1 against the Empire. As it is, Republics’ forces exist to make it so that attacking the Republic would be such a massive drain in resources that they cannot commit them to the task without fear of various fringe groups, pirates etc. seeing their chance to conquer or eradicate entire star systems when their defence fleets are away.
Also you might have missed it, but the Republic has been extensively modernizing its fleets both in new designs, redesigns and adopting new technology such as fusion reactors in retrofits, in the past decade to better respond to the Amarr and other emerging threats. I would consider that gearing up for war, after a fashion.
Additionally, I’m not sure where you dug up those “serious internal troubles” from? Republics’ been more stable in the last 8 or so years than it was the decade preceding it. Sure there are problems, of course. But none so dire that the Republic would forget its primary reason for existing. To make sure that its citizens will be free. That the Amarr will not darken the skies of the Old Mother. Never again.
Well, that sounds constructive, then.
The only way the Republic would ever not prime itself for war with the Empire is if it ever came to accept the status quo and the mass enslavement of their species. Considering that all of these slaves have origins to one of the tribes, this would be a massive betrayal of their principles and large swathes of their race.
They either wage war, or they let the matter go for all time and effectively submit to the views of the Empire and cease striving for the Minmatar liberation. The latter option sickens me to the core, personally, though I can see how many, especially on the Amarr side where political expediency seems to trump moral virtue every time, believe it is what will ultimately happen.
Thus far, most argue that “The time is not right”, but particularly corrupt leadership could turn it into “it isn’t worth it.” It is. after all. so easy to just say “You know what, why don’t we just…Not?”
Well you go tell the Caldari make nice with the Federation and dismantling their fleets, and maybe you would have a leg to stand on with your holier-than-thouness.
What the actual ■■■■? I never said I would be sleeping with the women without their consent!
The comments I made about possibly understanding the Amarr were very clearly pointed at their religion. NOT their slavery. That’s disgusting.
Dude, you ruined your own high. That’s on you for jumping to conclusions (notably, when people in this thread who expressly do not like me did not jump to that conclusion).
Yeah, you’re right. You never said any of that. I’m sorry for my conclusion-jumping. Just . . . uh, well, it’s complicated, with the Amarr and ■■■■. I did something incredibly stupid with regards to the Amarr, and I’ve really regretted it. And then with Mistress . . . things can get confusing.
I’m still going to blame Aria, though.
Oh, okay. We’re cool then.
Hi Dr. Ameriya! It has been a long time. I hope you’re well and that you’re still helping people; I remember how you tried to help me when I was first getting used to space.
It just turned out to be stress mostly.
Anyway. I am so very not saying anything about who you’re dating or not dating or being slandered for dating but it’s good to see you and it seems like you’re having a nice time. Be good!
Thanks! And yes, I am still doing my best to help people. I actually, hopefully, should be announcing some pretty exciting things pretty soon within the field of helping people! And doctor stuff.
I hope you’re having less stress and stuff.
And I really have to say that I am surprised and happy your new corp doctor hasn’t managed to kill you all through malpractice.
I approve of this border breaking love.
Love is free and so much fun. It knows no boundaries!
IT’S NOT HAPPENING!
You’re right, it has already happened.
I cannot speak definitively for the current state of affairs for SFRIM employee medical arrangements (though I have no reason to doubt that things are in the same tiptop shape they were when I transitioned to ARC). However, provided things are still as I left them, the vast majority of medical services are provided by AIMEDs, algorithms, and good old-fashioned associated intelligences. Not human beings prone to error and biases.
Sure, the bedside manner isn’t always the best but at least I’ve never had an AIMED develop a fetish for feline tails or what have you. That would just be bad programming.
Glad to see you and Commander Kim are so happy together.
-I
It NEVER happened.
AIMEDS. As your primary care? I don’t know whether to laugh or be horrified. I’ve consulted and worked on the programming of quite a number of AIMED programs throughout the years, and I know just how many outcomes in the diagnosis tree lead to: ‘contact a doctor/specialist.’ Even my own custom AMIs (Artificial Medical Intelligence) have a depressing number of ‘Contact Amy’ in their trees. AIMEDs are not primary care.
AIMEDs are a good option for routine checkups or tests. You don’t actually need an MD to draw blood. AIMEDs are good at cross-checking drug scripts for undesirable interactions. AIMEDs are the inexpensive version of healthcare for the masses, a baseline to ensure that a basic standard of care is met. If you need surgery, if you need anything more than an NP (nurse practitioner) can do, you get an actual doctor. AIMEDs are still weak AI, and do not compare to an MD in the slightest.
As far as my genetic mods, you know the ones that I did myself with some rather neat genetic splicing and intricate cosmetic surgery? You’re just making my point for me. I don’t give a damn what you think of me; no AI can match my level of skill.
And an interesting note about biases: in a Mass Casualty Incident, an AIMED goes into a special triage mode. Expectant patients are left to die. This is actually, depressingly the proper procedure for a MCI. However, an AIMED in an MCI Triage goes to a rigid START method.
Every identified victim will be sorted: Walking, moving, still. This is simple enough.
Every identified victim will be assessed, from still, to moving, to walking: Deceased, Immediate, Delayed, Minor. Deceased is categorized by a lack of breathing. That’s it. The first step on the tree is breathing, if no: Deceased. (MDs will already notice the contradiction here.) Any signs of a major, uncontrolled hemorrhage, a nonexistent radial pulse, or severe respiratory distress also yield Deceased. (Technically expectant, but for the purposes of triage, they’re deceased.) The second test is radial pulse and capillary refill. Depending on the results, Immediate or Delayed. Finally, it asks whether the patient is okay. If the patient answers in the affirmative, the patient is given a Minor tag. (MDs will really understand the danger of this.)
After every assessment is completed, including assessments of those walking, then the AIMED will go into lifesaving procedures for immediate patients. The AIMED is given five minutes per patient, stretched to allowed the completion of a final procedure. (It will not leave in the middle of inserting an IV, or intubating a patient.) It treats all immediate patients the same, with no discrimination within that category. It continues the rotation until a human paramedic (if in the field) or MD (at a hospital) gives directions. (In an MCI near hospitals, medical transport usually starts to bring causalities to the ER as fast as possible, with nothing beyond sorting done at the scene. AIMEDs will usually begin triage in a waiting area.)
In an MCI, an AIMED will not make use of bystanders to assist in treatment, as an AIMED cannot adequately asses the abilities of others. An MD will likely assign a bystander to apply pressure to a wound, or to give chest compressions, likely after a (very) short class. An MD will also be more flexible in their assessments and sorting, more likely to follow up if need be. With terrorists attacks seeming to be more common these days, I’d hope you’d have an actual MD on staff. Tail or not.
Well other people can’t be blamed for your bargain bin machines. Anyway, I’ll send some protein packs and canned tuna for Commander Kim and yourself. Really, my best wishes. I have an appointment at my head polisher’s.
And yet, every piece of research ever done on the matter give weak AI vastly superior results when it comes to diagnostic prowess than humans. Especially when they’re networked. I mean, I know you probably don’t want to be obsolete, and you don’t want to be as inconsequential as you are, but the simple fact is… they’re just better than you.
And no surprise either. Even aug’d out the arse, a human being can no more contain the medical knowledge of our species than we can contain the entire collection of Scripture or the entire several hundred year and nine hundred and eighty seven spinoffs of Cycles of Our Lives. It’s just not doable.
An AI can, weak or not. It doesn’t even need to be weak AI, it just needs to be a basic fuckin’ script. These aren’t even that, these are learning networks.
For you to even remotely compare, you would have to be neurally linked Sansha style to every other medical practitioner within reasonable reach - in this case, within the network these AIs have access to, up to and including the inter-system experience dumps - and be able to process and understand all of their experience and knowledge on top of your own. And you’d have to be able to further network across New Eden on demand if necessary.
Yeah, human medical practitioners are hardly going to be out of a job and there’s plenty of things these AIs can’t do… but in terms of diagnostic capability, their only limitation is their diagnostic equipment.
(( Seriously, even today in real life, doctors are vastly outmatched by AIs in damn near every field. Diagnostics in particular. It’s downright scary how good they are when trained. It’s some of the most amazing stuff going on in the world today, and as a medical professional myself I could not be happier. They can’t replace us, but they’ll damn sure save a whole lot more lives than we can without them. ))
This is why I work with an AMI as my primary assistant. They are amazing at diagnosis, test analysis, and cross-checking pharmaceuticals.
Here’s my full quote. It still remains true. AIMEDs do not do surgery, deal with zebras, or push boundaries. No clinic or hospital should be without an AIMED, but by that same token, no clinic or hospital should be without an MD.
I became a doctor to make people’s lives better. I didn’t actually get into medicine to save lives; though I know some who did. Along the way, though, I found they’re really one and the same. I know that I’m arrogant as all hell when it comes to my field, but not nearly arrogant as someone with no medical education making decision about the healthcare of a corporation. Ibrahim doesn’t even know enough to know that he’s wrong.