CCP themselves are full of conflicting ideas and suggestions about things. Just look at the Rorquals where CCP in the beginning adamantly insisted that this was an amazing change and then years later reluctantly started to backpaddle hard and threw the economy that they already wrecked into an even greater wrecked state. Or take Rattati’s and Psych’s stubborn insistence on that no-one could know how a certain feature implementation would pan out when people ("assholes, as they were called here) kept telling CCP exactly what would happen – and their predictions materialized to the letter. This was particularly true with Rorquals, supers, titans, structures and so on.
With regards to your “Hunters loved Blackout. ratters hated it” example: I remember a few instances where hunters started to complain about Blackout after the first week because they would not find a thing to kill anymore. It’s funny how the tables turned and a bad idea that was lauded by one side and loathed by the other actually proved the loathing side right and the lauding side wrong. That is not to say that CCP could have actually made Blackout work if they had implemented it as a full feature with changes and improvements to all things connected. But, as it is the case with all memes that a developer tries to use as basis for their development, they only did it half-assedly, poorly implemented and terribly communicated. And to this day, nearly 3 years after this “experiment”, CCP still has not released any data or findings from these 2 months to explain to us what they (think they) figured out from the data (behavioral changes, bot movement, pattern changes, etc.)
Naturally. I object anything that is objectively, factually and undeniably terrible. That has nothing to do with poorly thought out ideas or conflicting feedback. It is common sense to recognize horrible suggestions, ideas and features from players and developers. And to my credit, I have yet to be proven wrong about many of my negative evaluations of anything CCP has done in the last 7 years. Not that this is something I am particularly proud of. CCP seems to lack this common sense, at least judging by their highly questionable trackrecord of implemented features and quality of implementation.
CCP fails to provide persuasive reasoning for why a certain change was necessary. For instance, take the recent BLOPS changes and the addition of the Group Jump. Why would you implement something like this with the group numbers limitation of 10 while you say you want to see people to bring their BLOPS to the front line? Is there evidence in data that suggests people bring at most 10 BLOPS to a gank or only 10 bombers to a capital dunk? Things like Spectre Fleet or Bombers Bar suggest that this is not the case and instead people bring a lot more ships simply because it is necessary. You need overwhelming numbers to kill something because you can’t just go back, reship and then get bridged back in in most instances. So, if this Group Jump feature is supposed to work, you need to group jump your entire fleet so that your BLOPS is not at risk of dying and thus jeopardizing the entire operation and stranding your entire fleet in nomansland. Or if people drop BLOPS, from my personal experience, it will be many more than 10 simply because it’s needed. The only thing this might be useful for is jumping the BLOPS out and taking late comers with it who missed a bridge away from a destroyed target’s system.
What was the persuasive reason for introducing this feature then if, in my and some other people’s opinions, it is not useful to bring the blops in, but to bring it out safer.
What were persuasive arguments for throwing out of the window tried and proven balance paradigms for supers, titans that worked for over a decade for logical reasons?
What were persuasive arguments for throwing out of the window logical balance paradigms for structures that kept the economy stable for over a decade?
What are persuasive arguments for apparently focusing all ore faucets into anomalies that CCP needs to balance themselves and away from normal asteroid belts that have already been regulating and balancing themselves for over a decade?
I can continue the list if you wish but it should get the point across.
They didn’t listen to the Edencom community. Did they honestly expect this would change just because they sat in Poochven? When CCP introduced Pochven, they completely forgot about Edencom systems and that they are the only tangible consequence for trig lovers in empire space. But since you can gain positive standing with both sides by just killing drones in Pochven, these systems are utterly useless. CCP willfully and intentionally made Edencom into a joke 1 second after Pochven was established.
Funny side note here:
Trigs still attack high standings Trig players. Trigs also still attack one another. I have 8.5 and I still get attacked by them randomly
Do they realize that Trigs have 3 distinct factions under the Trig banner? I have a char that is white neutral with Perun, but red hostile with Veles. Also, triglavians are constantly at war with each other in their old abyssal home area if I remember the lore correctly. Something about proving to be the strongest and so on. Why should they stop doing that in Pochven? If you ask me, these trig players don’t understand trigs and they want this particular thing changed so that it’s more convenient to them.
In conclusion: CCP’s situation is a mess. A wonderful, huge, unfathomable, unfixable mess. Does being more reasonable and less aggravating against them help to make them listen to reason? The last 7 years of constantly telling them how terrible a feature is that they implemented, giving them advice on how to fix them, and doing so in a calm, collected manner says otherwise. Whenever I tell CCP something is in my opinion wrong, I used to do it in a removed manner so that it does not come across too negative. However, after years and years of seeing CCP ignore the community, I see no reason to handle them with kid gloves anymore. Will it make them less likely to see what I write? Yes. Does it matter to me? No. Why? Because they just dig their own grave and I will gladly keep selling them shovels to accelerate their endeavor.