I agree completely. Make it all null sec. Equal playing field for everyone. Great idea!
You do realize Jita 4/4 would be bubbled on day one, right?
When you say “whiney carebear” I’m hearing “crybear.”
There is a distinct difference between carebears and crybears.
Carebears are risk adverse, but accept that EvE is full of risk and take measures mitigate that risk.
Crybears are narcissistic twats that want everything handed to them with minimal effort and want any adversity removed from the game entirely. They are often victimized crybullies that expect everyone else to conform to what they want.
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So if I fly into a FW site and noone comes in to fight, do I just leave without finishing it? I can’t force people to come fight over the sites.
I’m not complaining about nothing happening, I’m saying that EVE is built for low input. You’re crying that someone might play EVE and watch netflix, but the game is built for low input and it seems intentionally designed that way. Vokan agreed on this point too, so it’s not just people you call “whiny”.
By the way, what is the difference between someone playing one character while paying attention to a second window that has netflix in it too, and you playing one character while paying attention to another window with a second character in it? If you are splitting your attention between two clients then you are just as “AFK” as someone splitting their attention between one client and netflix, as I do.
Ok? Sounds like content instead of 2000 people spinning ships and spamming hypernet ads. I shop in the 2nd best stocked market in the game every day and it’s been bubbled 0 times. Even in scary null sec! It turns out when players work together all sorts of things are possible. But really you should talk to your carebear friends about it, it was their idea. As is this
All good ideas.
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It’d work for me, because if there were no PvE people would be more likley to come fight in faction warfare for profit.
Yeah, sounds great. The more people in low sec the better, I agree.
No. They are at the keyboard with one toon at all times. Watching Netflix on the other hand , makes you a certified couch potato.
But they are AFK with the other character. If I’m 50/50 split with EVE and Netflix then half the time I am “AFK” by the odd definition being given here. The other half of the time I’m not AFK.
If you play two EVE characters then one of your characters is always AFK. You’re actually twice as AFK if you run two clients than if you run one client and Netflix.
What isn’t boring to you?
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I think this whole AFK/Netflix thing is a red herring that gets people arguing in circles over nothing of particular relevance.
People don’t generally care what you do. You can go AFK, watch Netflix, or do whatever else you want to do, and though some will claim that’s the wrong way to play, they won’t be deeply offended by it or make much effort to seek you out.
The thing is, being AFK or watching Netflix puts one at increased risk, and that risk can cost a player their ship. The crux of whether people have a real issue with the AFK player or not comes when that AFK player denies all responsibility for the losses they sustain and expects the game to change to accommodate the expectation of safety even in situations where they have greatly reduced awareness by willingly diverting their attention elsewhere.
If you want to take the risk and responsibility for the outcome, AFK, Autopilot, or do whatever you want to do. Almost nobody will care, and those that do won’t put much effort into complaining or punishing you unless they just happen to see you in the area looking vulnerable at a time it is already convenient for them to mount an attack. They have no reason to particularly hate you until you give them one by either having a meltdown on them in direct communications or lobbying to have their playstyle nerfed for your convenience.
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You’re just inventing this ‘low input’ nonsense. It is sheer baloney. Eve has as much input as you choose there to be. Of course nothing much is going to happen if you sit at some safe spot 30au from anyone. There’s no shortage of action in Eve if you go look for it.
Seriously ?? You can’t see the difference ? Multiboxers actually have to pay even more attention to Eve itself. Last I heard, Netflix was not part of Eve…and by definition if you are watching it then you are not paying attention to the game.
Sheesh…I can’t believe that even needed explaining.
I’m not sure I can be bothered partaking in what has to be the silliest discussion in the history of Eve. You are either taking the mickey, or clueless, or both. Might it just occur to you that the person multiboxing in two accounts is at least paying attention in one of them all the time, while the person watching Netflix is paying attention to Eve in none of them while watching Netflix.
Now I will go bang my head against a wall.
How am I inventing it? Take the faction warfare example. I warp to a site (2 clicks) I activate the gate (2 clicks) I launch my drones and set them on the defending rat (4 clicks) I orbit the beacon (2 clicks). I now wait 10+ minutes. I then only need to react if the rat respawns and my drones for some reason don’t aggress, or if another players shows up which is rare.
No, I can’t see the difference. If you are running two accounts and you are mining on one and hauling on the other then one of your accounts must be “AFK” at any time. When you are looking at the miner, the hauler is AFK, when you are looking at the hauler the hauler is AFK.
It is a silly discussion, but it’s only silly because you keep screaming at people about “being AFK” because they don’t dedicate their entire lives to the game whenever a client is open. I personally don’t think it’s a problem if someone wants to multibox, or multitask with some other activity, and I think EVE is built specifically to be playable with far less than 100% attention.
It just seems to be that if other people don’t think like you and play the game exactly as you play it then you become angry.
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Riiiight. I love when you tell on yourself 
Exactly.
And no one tell them about the Fallout series
Oh. And what qualifies you to make this diagnosis again, sight unseen?
I mean I had all three but always mained my warlock heh.
i know. It’d be great
I’m sure you have ways of leaving
I love when you give yourself away
I also like at least you aren’t pretending to be a nub anymore.
Oh not at all. Only when people are trying to change core gameplay cause they can’t handle the game they chose to play
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Would you AFK drive a Lorry (mining barge) whilst watching Netflix?
I don’t understand what it is you are trying to say to me?
I tried the other two. They were fun. But I really loved playing the titan.
AFK refers to the player not the account.