Stacking Penalty

[Agent_5B]

Hi if you use more than one web on a target do they all have full effect without stacking penalty ?
Also Sensor Damps it mentions that they receive a stacking penalty affecting the same attribute but does that apply to more than one ship damping the same target ?

This might need to move too modules section of the forum

[Netan_MalDoran]

I know webs have a stacking penalty, so if you have 2 webs that each slow down by 50%, I believe that your target will then be slowed down to 75%.

[Chainsaw_Plankton]

https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Stacking_penalties

tl;dr
1st mod: 100.0% effectiveness
2nd mod: ~86.9% effectiveness
3rd mod: ~57.1% effectiveness
4th mod: ~28.3% effectiveness
5th mod: ~10.6% effectiveness
6th mod: ~3.0% effectiveness

@Agent_5B

does that apply to more than one ship damping the same target ?

afaik yes, otherwise everyone could just fit one target painter and make a frigate the size of a large star

[Agent_5B]

No stacking penalty is mentioned in the description of a web however in a sensor damp and target painter it is mentioned

[ShahFluffers]

@Agent_5B

No stacking penalty is mentioned in the description of a web however in a sensor damp and target painter it is mentioned

Even though it is not mentioned in the text, it is there (and yes, I am about 99.978% sure of this regarding webs ) .

A good rule of thumb is to assume that stacking penalties apply for pretty much any and all stats that can be buffed with rigs and modules.

[Agent_5B]

So using 5 web drones at 5% each is only actually going to reduce velocity by about 15%

[ShahFluffers]

@Agent_5B

So using 5 web drones at 5% each is only actually going to reduce velocity by about 15%

Probably less than that.

Here is another thread where things led to a similar question.

Most Annoying tackle fit ever?

Diminishing returns would definitely be the problem here. I am a little fuzzy on this, but I think webber drones are subject to the same diminishing returns paradigm that apply to modules to when affecting the same stat. That paradigm is this: First module that affects a specific stat (usually the one that affords the largest bonus): 100% of that module’s bonus is applied. Second module that affects a specific stat: ~87% of that module’s bonus is applied. Third module that affects a specif…

@ShahFluffers

Each webbing drone has a web strength of 5%. So that means the first drone will apply only 4.35% webbing on the target, the second will apply 2.5%, the third applies 1%, and the last two drones are basically “wasted” in the sense that they are not really contributing any meaningful web strength.

(NOTE: Someone should probably check my math on this!)

Edit: To answer your most likely next question; yes, everyone is aware of how useless webbing drones are. To be honest, i don’t think the DEVs see a good answer for addressing this and neither do I without creating a lot more spaghetti code… which may or may not break other, unrelated, things because programming languages are fickle like that.

[Agent_5B]

His math is wrong though The first one applies 5% the second one 4.35% the third 2.5% forth 1 % But yes that will all shift down a peg if your ship uses a web module on him too.

[Keno_Skir]

Get a Vindi then it’s all academic anyway

[Agent_5B]

@Keno_Skir

Get a Vindi then it’s all academic anyway

A shiny ship solves everything, I’ve never had a vindicator but I’ve seen them die quite a few times

[Keno_Skir]

Pilot error.

[Agent_5B]

@Keno_Skir

Pilot error

Yeah getting in a Vindi was the first one

[Keno_Skir]

That’s pretty funny, thanks for the education. Your killboard really backs up your in depth knowledge of Vindicator use

[Agent_5B]

@Keno_Skir

Your killboard really backs up your in depth knowledge of Vindicator use

Ah well check my corp everyone in my corp is in fact me.

I can fly a vindi I just don’t because they are too many eggs in one basket and not that useful in tunnel warfare

[Keno_Skir]

@Agent_5B

I’ve never had a vindicator

@Agent_5B

I can fly a vindi I just don’t because they are too many eggs in one basket and not that useful in tunnel warfare

So your indepth knowledge of Vindi use could be called lacking perhaps? I mean I was really only making a passing comment about Vindis with relation to web stacking penalty. I wasn’t suggesting you don’t PvP. With 2 webs slowing a micro-warping frigate to the point you can hit it with battleship guns I think it’s fairly obvious why I made the link with your question about stacking penalties

@Agent_5B

A shiny ship solves everything

Of course not. But the correct shiny ship can solve most things. Sorry for tickling your neckbeard.

[Agent_5B]

@Keno_Skir

So your indepth knowledge of Vindi use could be called lacking perhaps?

Of course it isn’t I am the alpha forum alt of all knowledge. However the lacking indepth does tell you something about the frequency in which they are used if ever and that infrequency multiplied by how often a 1 v 1 battleship fight happens. Are we talking about a compact gang with specific and economical stuff or just a huge blob of ships that has everything it it could possibly need for all situations because the later isn’t really a indepth knowledge either.

[Keno_Skir]

You should try one just for sh*ts and giggles one day.