Strictly personal opinion of a new player after 40 days of playing

I do fresh starts very regularly. Partly because I’m weird, partly because I want to learn about the changes to the tutorials and career stuff and partly because I enjoy finding different ways of doing things.

Not having the luxury of a zillion skillpoints, all the assets and/or standing requires one to be more inventive (the whole meritocracy thing). If I’d make a fresh alpha character now then in 24 hrs I’d probably have a few 100 mil.

Takes a couple hours at most: Contact and tease the Frostpacker while pretending to be Aiko, receive a couple billion ISKs in exchange. :wink:

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What you write will surely be true and I am probably a clumsy so I would be grateful if you send a link where to find the recipe or instructions to get that 100mil in 24 hrs.
( obviously I’m kidding )

I didn’t understand anything you wrote. Probably like almost all the 2-line replies you wanted to be ironic , if so that’s fine no problem, otherwise if you really want to tell me how to get “billions ISKs” you have to be a little more detailed

It’s a meta joke, once you get more used to the forum regulars and their kinks you’ll understand it. :blush:

As said, it’s about understanding and experience, something you can’t just learn in 20 minutes by watching a guide or some memes. Mostly because details matter and a guide that has all the details you need would be hours long and no one would watch it, but also because it’s not easy for someone who isn’t new to understand which details to add and which to leave out.

I can tell you what works best for me personally, that is combat exploration in high sec using a destroyer with scanner probes. It works for me because I have experience with it and because I know where to look and scan. Someone who lacks that knowledge and experience will do crap regardless of how much SP he has or what fancy ship he may fly.

Which was my point: EVE is far more about understanding than it may seem, the GOOD part about that is that you can choose to learn and since most EVE players are filthy lazy casuals at best you can very easily outdo them in many ways even if you lack the skill points.

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Yes what @Aisha_Katalen mentions is key, there are pletny of ways to earn ISK efficiently, the question begins with you answering what kind of gameplay you’d prefer doing so.

Because also it is very important to instead of turning the game into a grind that might be much more lucrative you get bored and burned out in the process, so if you can do something less lucrative but also having fun in the process maybe that is the better option.

There are niche methods too which might or might not be your thing, which also could be depending on random luck if work while other methods could be more generic but more reliable.

Few examples to the ones that are dependent on luck and more niche:

  • Grabbing loot near Jita 4-4 trade hub where expensive ships often get popped and if you are lucky might grab hundreds or billions worth of loot but might find nothing valuable for days or other people (bots / scripts?) outperform you.
  • Posting scam contracts and offers preferably on a disposable alt as most people will block you, where even if just one person falls for the scam you could get hundreds mils or even billions worth of ISK with a single contract, but it might take days or weeks or not work at all.

So there are many paths you can take and while doing so have to also take into consideration your fun per hour too not just your isk per hour ratio. :wink:

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Thanks to both of you for the answer, from what you specify you confirm to me that to get those 100mil in 24 hrs require years of experience studying the EVE universe and hoping to find a little-used path.
Of course you will understand that this strategy is not feasible for someone who has just a month of playing like me.
Thanks again for having me a little of your time: I gave you both a little heart

Well it definitely needs know-how so a bit of study, preparation and practice but even if not in your first 24 hours it is doable after a while (more or less depending on how fast you learn and so on.) But a hundred mil per a day or maybe just a couple days should be doable for even rookies after a week or so, I think if you are focused on accomplishing just that.

There are also good corporations that can help you achieve quick progression just have to find a proper one.

I went in slow and solo and still had fun even if did not get rich quickly, so if your goal is fun instead I think (depending on your definition of fun) can accomplish a good and fun experience even without quickly earning lots of ISK.

No, it doesn’t. Over the years I’ve helped many actual new players get in to this or other play styles that can earn very well early on, all dependant on what sort of play style(s) suited them. To the point where they end up in their own Pirate faction cruiser (fitted value is some 300-400 mil) in about 2-3 weeks and then they can snowball it from there.

That didn’t work for all because it turned out they couldn’t be bothered (enough) for whatever reason: I’d say about 30% of the people I’ve helped with something like that caught on and it helped them get started very quickly. Others just either quit the game or decided that this was all way too much effort for now.

It relies on several things:

  • what the new player likes doing and has affinity for. If you’re not numbers driven then getting into trading is never going to be great nor interesting to do, but someone who has a spreadsheet fetish would do a whole lot better at it and get filthy rich in no time. This goes for all play styles.

  • How much (brain) effort the new player is willing and capable of putting in.

  • direct tutoring. JUST using some YT guide or relying on reddit/discord chat isn’t really going to work too well, it’s going to take more time. Direct tutoring on voice keeps replies and reactions short and to the point. You don’t NEED it but it’s certainly going to speed up the process.

The whole point of the game is risk vs reward. For example, some level 3 implants may be 20m ISK, while level 4, adding just an extra 1% enhancement, may be 100m ISK. Four of those level 4 implants and the player has spent an extra 320m ISK compared to four of level 3.

The player has to decide if the risk is worth it. I podded someone’s 70m ISK capsule the other day. That person was rather foolish to just be sitting outside Jita for several minutes as a suspect. Maybe they just forgot they were in their implants clone.

A saying you will hear often in Eve is ’ do not undock what you cannot afford to lose '. Spending more is no guarantee of victory in space. All those blingy modules that cost millions to give a few extra percent of this or that are no guarantee of superiority and in fact just increase the loss if a more experienced player in a smaller and cheaper ship can prevail.

Also, I think you’ll tend to find it is newer players who have fixed ideas about what to fly and what mods to fit…and older players are more flexible precisely because of greater experience.