Suicide in highsec, senseless and merciless

[Duality107]

@Strom_Kryos

War decs should still be viable even in Hi Sec… for those that are looking to opt out, you only need to join an NPC corp during that time… and join back to your holding corp when it’s over. There was no need to ever change how war decs worked. If you are working with deployed structures and don’t have the protection or isk to support a war then you shouldn’t deploy it. That’s coming from someone who thinks Hi Sec should be more secure.

I would rather deal with war decs in high sec than 0 effort, anti-social ganking which has no real counter-play. I just returned to EVE after a 4 year break and within the 1st week I’m ready to quit again. There’s less high-sec corps than ever and more gankers running around than ever. I don’t want to deal with the time and effort it takes to move out to null and if I try doing anything productive in high-sec I’m basically just painting a target on my back.

Even if I hold a ton of nostalgia for EVE, it ain’t the early-mid 2000s anymore. Other space games (that don’t charge $20/month) exist.

[Malak_Starfire]

@Duality107

I would rather deal with war decs in high sec than 0 effort, anti-social ganking which has no real counter-play. There’s less high-sec corps than ever and more gankers running around than ever.

There are actually more hi sec corps as they are no longer being war dec’ed into oblivion. There is also a lot of counter play to ganking, which occurs prior to the actual gank, a large part of that is getting away from population centers.

[Glenduil]

@Duality107

anti-social ganking which has no real counter-play

There is plenty of counter play. Aren’t you a veteran player? Have you even tried to counter ganking? All you have to do is survive for a few seconds. You can’t do that?

[Duality107]

@Glenduil

There is plenty of counter play. Aren’t you a veteran player? Have you even tried to counter ganking? All you have to do is survive for a few seconds. You can’t do that?

A more appropriate kind of counter-play would be disabling the ability to buy standing, restricting docking in higher security systems for people with negative standing, and forcing gankers to actually base up in some low sec system, actually put some thought into their logistics and fits before performing raids into high-sec.

If gankers are permanently -5.0, as they should be, then players have an opportunity to setup gate camps at known ganker entry points in high-sec systems. Or create hunting parties to try intercepting an active ganker fleet.

But I’m sure my argument will fall on deaf ears as many others have before, because the reality is that high sec gankers were never particularly interested in actual PvP where anyone is afforded an opportunity to fight back. The only difference between an F1 mining carebear and an F1 cata ganker is that the mining player’s fun doesn’t come at someone else’s expense.

[Glenduil]

I see why you quit. You are not ready for Eve Online.

[Molea_Enjoyer]

There is already a nerf to ganking since the legion release. You have to wait for next year. Nerfs to ganking happen on yearly basis. It is too early for complains.