Not sure. He wrote he knows game now. He might linger around or be off to the next game evaluating it against his morality codex.
He should go play eve echoes, because pvp in hisec was completely removed there
he will quickly notice that the economy is in a bad way though, because it collapsed the day that dropped
I have just read up on how EVE Echoes went into the trashcan can due to this. No PVP in highsec, botting mechanics included in the game mechanics and automatic ship replacements means the industry is completely pointless and nonexistent, isk is completely worthless and all things beyond that require you to invest real life money.
I donāt agree with how the current mechanics are. But my stance on it doesnāt require much change at all, certainly not giving out free ships⦠I mean that in itself is more open for ganking. There are many aspects to this, itās just a bit out of balance atm. The op appears to be going more on a ⦠itās bad for humanity to entertain bad morals in a game approach. From a logical sense they are not necessarily wrong, but this game wasnāt designed for that, well definitely in lo/null sec. But Hi Sec⦠the least they could do is drop the tax in the station fees if they actually are not going to have the protection from the sov/concord. The risk vs reward of ganking is near none for the those that do it in groups. The gank mechanic is unbalanced in hi sec and needs slight tweaking, more so they could do what existed in the past, and just open up better and more rewarding venues of isk for those wanting to have pvp in Hi Sec.
Iād be very surprised if the amount of players that get ganked exceeded 1% on any given day. Thatās not enough to have any effect on the economy. Iād find it easier to believe that more miners lose their ships to Diamond NPCs.
John Sikalias
May 29, 2025, 15:13 UTC
Just came back after ten years and still the same ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā . Iām mining not ā ā ā ā ā ā ā with anyone and in two days lost what I worked for cost $400million
You wonāt get new players to stay there has to be a safe place for people who donāt want to pvp but just love the game! Null sec should be the place for pvp and 1.0 to .01 should be safe for all players that just want pve! You keep listening to your Csm of whatever theyāre called and will not survive much longer and Frontier should be integrated with Eve online because thatās not going to happen. Iāve played games since the first PlayStation, Xbox, and pc games came out. Was on Eve 2006 to 2010 then all the guys in our corp had enough and we all quit at the same time! Time for big changes if you want to survive micro transactions would go up 20 fold if players knew that there time and shuff they build and work for are not stolen by the scum that prey on them!
You have to consider the single player that loves the game but doesnāt want to be in corps that tell them how and when to play. Destiny found that out to late also and is trying to rectify that but itās to late! At the most you have maybe 20 to 30 thousand players but if you look at the corps members list only a fraction of those players are active. Iāve applied to many and all you see not been on for months those guys are gone but still shows that the corp ha hundreds or thousands of players when thatās not true! You want to make money my son and I were on and would have spent more money on packages but for what to lose everything to those just waiting to steal it, ā ā ā ā that. 1.0 to .01 sec should have all the resources that high sec low sec and null have to offer so players can build and manufacture, and live in safety! And when you buy structures of any kind you shouldnāt be able to war dec you thatās ridiculous. Keep all that war dec and pvp in null sec. That way players can create more than one account for manufacturing pve safety and on for null sec PvP and shoot the ā ā ā ā out of yourselves! You would bring in at least 500 to a million players the first year you made those changes. The old CCP is dead and just listening to the CSM will get you nowhere just like it has for the past years. New players are sticking around for a month or more but not paying subscription fees so they can get ganked and screwed by other players! Just an observation itās a good concept but stop pandering to the 2% and think about where you can really take this game itās time for bigger things!!
CSM doesnāt have much control, all they can do is present their views CCPs actions are done by CCP. Also most people on these forums, including you are maybe 2% of the population, or even interacts with only 2% of the population. Do not claim to know what people think. CCPs sees more data than we do. All we can say is what we personally feel and think. You are fine to want PVE only in High and Low, but donāt even for a second claim that itās what the player base wants.
There are almost 1,200 systems in High Sec. You can leave the popular trade hubs and mine in safety in a secluded area.
You wrote everything correctly, I support it. The ratio of PVE and PVP players in all the games I played was never in favor of PVP. On the contrary, PVP lovers are at most 10%. Despite the claims of local PVP lovers, most players are engaged in PVE activities, even in such a PVP-oriented game as EVE.
The image of a real PVP player is this: a beggar who is looking for something to steal. For example, in WOW, rich PVE players fed PVP players out of compassion. I did the same. They really had nothing, and such people do not know how to make money.
War decs should still be viable even in Hi Sec⦠for those that are looking to opt out, you only need to join an NPC corp during that time⦠and join back to your holding corp when itās over. There was no need to ever change how war decs worked. If you are working with deployed structures and donāt have the protection or isk to support a war then you shouldnāt deploy it. Thatās coming from someone who thinks Hi Sec should be more secure.
Not exactly. A Fortizar yeah. Iāll give you that. But the tier one structures cost very little. If someone blows up one of mine, Iāll simply replace it. An Astrahus costs way less to replace it than it does to defend. There are so many economists in this game- theyāll tell you. Isnāt that the golden rule in Eve? Everything can and will be destroyed and you shouldnāt fly (or deploy) what you canāt replace?
Iām not the only one either. There was once a reddit post complaining that corps would just anchor a whole new structure before the original one had even been destroyed. There arenāt any drawbacks to that strategy.
Donāt try to fool anyone. If there was no need, CCP wouldnāt have changed it. They noticed how many players left the game over it and it simply hurt their wallets hard enough to finally remove this mechanic, which was to 99% used as a griefing tool by experienced players to cheaply kill newbies. And it was absolutely obvious that this crap wasnāt benefitial to the game at all.
when is the CSM going to address the ganking problem seriously? @Mike_Azariah
Ganking is only called ganking in high sec- CSM only exists in Null and therefore, I doubt any of them even realize that there is a high sec.
Iām still not taking a stance on ganking- just stating a fact- high sec is as is. Itāll never change,
then why are we here if the CSM will never realize that there is a highsec? are we wasting our time? oh no @CCP_Stroopwafel please enlight us
The real world question how many frozen corpses of Princess exists?
I think you vastly overestimate what the csm is capable of.
They present their ideas and opinions to ccp and give feedback on ccpās ideas.
Thatās it.
They cannot change things through a csm vote nor can they demand specific changes.
Oh no I dont.