My question remains, what was it that made HS safe then?
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Maybe he means it was safe before anyone logged in. I once encountered someone who credibly described ganking during the first week.
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True and he’s also desperately grasping for straws. 
I think he is physically incapable of that. Can’t even answer a simple question directly.
The only offtopic bait here is from you and nobody cares to reply to it. 
Nope, answer it directly:
Can you show me where I gave you one line ad-homs in reaction to a conversation?
Instead of posting offtopic ChatGTP spam that is against the rules answer the question:
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Are you trying to imply that those are quotes from me?
(edited cus I spel gud)
I don’t think he tries to imply anything, he just asks ChatGTP to reply on his behalf as he can’t formulate a single opinion of his own let alone answer a simple question.
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Literal bot, replaced his brain with a machine.
Blah blah blah. You talk about the same tired crowd…yet you bring up the same tired BS that gets blurted out ad infinitum.
And who ever said anyone had to have weapons for it to be PvP ? You just totally made that one up.
What’s more, ganking is grossly overstated as a ‘problem’. I have 18 chars and have only ever been ganked in one of them…and that was 4 years ago. I’ve mined, transported billions worth of stuff around, flown expensive ships ( some unarmed ) around EVE, and in all that time not been ganked. Yet the anti-gankers rattle on as if one only had to undock and a gank fleet is there.
In fact…most of the time you can fly through Uedama ( for example ) and there are no gankers there. I have one char that even lives there…and has never been ganked.
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Blockquote So spare us the sermons about ‘freedom’ and ‘risk’. You’re not defending the sandbox. You’re defending a loophole.
not a loophole but a game mechanics put by ccp since the beta, over 20 years ago
if the playerbase didn’t mind dying in high sec back then, why should we change it 20 years, why high sec should be a bubble ?
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The real question is, what will gankers do after ganking is abolished?
They dedicated their whole EVE Online careers to one playstyle that is soon to be obsolete.
as follows…
You claimed
What do you mean exactly by at the start? At the start of EVE?
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Got any evidence to back that claim? CCP has been pretty clear in that Ganking is a perfectly acceptable form of gameplay.
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I asked CCP if it’s ok to do what I do, and the reply was “We see no issue.”
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Ok, let me know when that happens, I’m sure you will be holding your breathe until then.
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Darn it. I always thought the process was…
- The last stars fade out
- Galaxies get sucked into supermassive black holes
- The last supermassive black holes evaporate from Hawking radiation…in 10^76 years
- Thermodynamic equilibrium and the ‘heat death’ of the universe
BUT…now I can see the whole of cosmology is wrong and there is a NEW last stage…
- Ganking gets abolished
While this question was not directed at me, I spent some time looking for an answer.
Unfortunately, CCP “vanished” the original EVE forum archive, so I could only search Chribba’s EVE Search.
2005 in Crime and Punishment I found this thread:
…where the OP discusses ganking in a 1.0 system, Gallente space. There is the usual “suspects”: pro, anti, condemnation, and if you read post 7 this:
Posted - 2005.12.13 02:44:00 - [7]
Originally by: Serenity Frye
Pathetic, if you want to blow off steam then create a suicide kessie alt and join Resevior dogs in killing macro miners, not new players especially when we know new people are signing onto the game from advertising and articles and SWG.
This sort of thing has been going on since I started the game 2 and a half years ago. I actually got the idea for kessie squads from noob’s who ganked Boogereater in Sobaseki.
I swear, I learn more from the new people everytime I work with them, than I did in the time I’ve played EVE. I think I am still playing the game as it was in Beta…
Other than that - this sucks. These people are here to play the game - not ruin it. Reservoir Dogs has had it ups and downs. Everything from Corp theives to huge donations of ships and cash. I don’t thing we could do this without support from the player base. This is the sort of thing that could turn the players against the antimacro pilots.
—end of post 7.
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As near as I could tell, from researching, the antimacro pilots, from other posts in C & P, would appear to be ganking miners. I’m not too clear yet on if they, the miners, were bots, afk, or what.
I have to clean my house now, and if I find the energy later on, I may try researching this further back and see if I can find the first use of the suicide gank in relationship to a catalyst.
As you can tell from post 7, at least at that point in time, suicide “kessies” were discussed, and that poster makes references to this activity two and a half years earlier…that puts it in 2003.
To be clear, the reference to 2 1/2 years earlier, I’m not sure if the poster is referencing ganking, kessies, noob ganking or miner ganking.
But he definitely used the words “ganked”, & Sobaseki. That put’s it squarely in Highsec. And that’s in 2005.
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This 2005 thread proves that suicide ganking began to emerge as a recognizable behavior around that time, not in 2003. The community was clearly surprised and disgusted, not treating it as a long-established norm. Show me any 2003 evidence of players’ suicide ganking newbros in starter systems.
You won’t, because it didn’t happen.