I am sorry Swing Vote if we carbon units seem rash and chaotic to you. We are not as precise as you digital folks.
I just find him criticizing me adorable.
HiSec was never “100% safe”.
In the past, CONCORD could be tanked, and you could escape from them. So you could gank without CONCORD blowing you up.
Any player corporation could be wardec’d by any other player corporation for a flate rate.
Actually, HiSec is safer today than it ever has been: corporations are immune from wardecs until the place a structure (they just use holding corps for that), mining barges have more tank than ever (especially procurers), Orca tank got a significant buff, if you steal someone’s can now you have suspect and everyone can shoot you and not just that one person.
HiSec is way safer than ever. If you’re getting blown up by other players in HiSec the only fault is on you.
@Swing_Vote1 Since you were here from the beginning. How old are you considering eve’s demographic profile back then. Are you suffering from dementia or Alzheimer’s? I have to deal with people with those sad afflictions every day. You have my deepest sympathy.
o/
I have to admit, in as much as I was trained and studied to be a historian, I found this to be a delightful challenge. I enjoy researching, and while CCP has “vanished” the earliest iteration of the EVE forum, I was able to find the following:
I am including one of the respondents posts here, for those interested in a summation of the thread:
For those who didn’t click the link, this post seems to predate usage of the word “ganking”. As you follow the thread one poster admits to:
A few days ago I was attacking people in Duripant which is a 1.0 and the police weren’t there and the sentry guns didn’t do anything. So everybody kinda started attacking everybody.
Pator is the system initially mentioned. While no one explicitly writes they are attacking new players in these two starter systems, obviously violence was happening, and violence the respondents as a whole thought should involve Concord in some manner.
This time period predates my involvement in EVE, by 10 years. It seems from reading this section of the earliest EVE forum, Concord still has bugs? Is being worked on?
Anyhow, speculation was occurring, in 2003, as to what should be expected with Concord, in Highsec, with specific mentions of two starters systems.
As an aside, as you can see from the screenshot, afk mining was being discussed in such threads already.
During this time period, so roughly 2 1/2 to 3 months after EVE’s debut in May 2003, pilots were debating safety in Highsec, name changes, and the price for EVE.
Links for the 3 mentions listed here:
I’m just tossing those in, as we’re still debating these issues/topics on the current iteration of the EVE forum.
@Swing_Vote1 , thanks. I had fun looking it up,
The good old days when you could solo gank any mining ship with a T1 fit Catalyst.
Or if you were smart enough to avoid that!
It’s always been easy to avoid. Don’t mine on the warp in. Warp out when you see combat probes or local spikes.
Then. Now? That would require effort.
Welp, guess you aren’t even passingly familiar with the basic ideas of faction warfare and obviously can’t glean possible intel.
You’ve played EvE for 22 years you say, eh?
I can’t believe someone who’s allegedly been in EVE 22 years doesn’t understand the very simple explanation for this. It’s entirely about joining corporations/factions for the duration of a war…and then returning to an original non-wardeccable corp. Its a very common practice…and has nothing to do with flip-flopping over loyalty to a corp.
Oh look, someone who switched between 2 NPC corps a lot…That’s what Faction warfare looked like before direct enlistment.
I see that place on TikToks
My experience with nullsec is mostly through TikToks
oh no, i change corporation instead of stay 20 years with one ? whotever i am gonna do with eve no, i have been exposed as…playing the game
where is fraternity ? they need to fix this bot code asap
This thread hasn’t achieved anything productive so I will be closing it.
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