The End of Highsec

My understanding is that not being able to anchor Keepstars in highsec has been the case for some years and is not new…and that structures such as the Tranquility Trading Tower ( TTT ) date back to when there was some exception to that. As for Sotiyos, most of those in highsec are those owned by IChooseYou…and they never seem to get targetted by anyone, for whatever nefarious reasons might exist.

Blackflag and Wrecking Machine ( which I am part of ) destroyed a Sotiyo back in March, and my understanding then was that Parabellum would not be able to place a new one. So once again, I am not entirely sure that is new either.

Of course, I agree about the ‘not being able to contest’ the power of groups that own the TTT cartel and various Sotiyo trading centres. Nobody is going to take on the TTT and win, given the sheer amount of forces that could defend it.

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100%, im also a part of the same block and aware of the reality we exist in.
ohh, and they dont have to defend it. They simply blob the war hq of the attacker which conveniently has different timer mechanics.

Do you rem what Para tried to do against the coalition war hqs? After the reffed our shields with ease, they paid everyone they knew to come in for one final blow to force peace.
Its incredible how one-sided the mechanics are and its 100% going cause the ones benefiting from it to want to keep things as they are… no matter how bad it is for the game as a whole.

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Perhaps, but that’s not EvE.

Aisha’s wrong in that EvE’s a meritocrocy, rather Eve’s more of an oligarchy.

We’re in a complete dystopia.
The meritorious lose out to the connected.

That’s always been EvE.

CCP could just remove the XL’s but they won’t. It’s up to players to do so using whatever means necessary.

–Geadget will just ignore them

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One could argue endlessly about whether such structures ‘ought’ to exist in highsec. The real issue, to me, is that one has a cartel of people who are ostensibly fighting each other on the one hand, whilst engaging in market co-operation on the other. Most cartels really don’t survive genuine wars. Indeed, historically trade is one of the first things affected by conflict.

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sorry? you telling me that CCP implemented this new restriction in secret time ago?

That’s what I heard at the time ( March 2023)…that new Sotiyos would not be able to be placed. That may have been via prior knowledge of this change from some source. The usual ‘friend of a friend told me’ sort of thing that probably got mis-interpreted along the way.

I still am surpised there are people who think an individual should be able to compete with what is effectively a nation.

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Thats not at all what anyone is saying.

Its literally what Rocket said.

You need to look up the definition of “Literally”. Lets not get off topic plz.

So why are you derailing it with pedantry?

No one person should be able to compete with a well run corp, no corp with a well run alliance etc.

To think otherwise is being massively obtuse to the point of trolling.

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Yes, true. No one has said otherwise.

Ive already quoted where someone has plus it would seem to be the topic, unless you would like to clarify what you mean without hyperbole.

Except that it is absurd that people who are ostensibly at war with each other on the one hand are happily gaining the benefits of some trading cartel on the other. This does not seem like the ‘dog eat dog’ mad dystopia that I was attracted to in the first place. It just looks to me like there is no real incentive for the huge blocks to fight anything but token ‘wars’…with the old wars of total anihilation being a thing of the past.

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Why would there be? A bloc that lost might be tempted to quit and I doubt CCP can afford that.

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Step into the right direction. Now remove the requirement for war HQs, so whoever owns a Market Hub has to have a standing defense force there actively protecting it against attacks and not just rely on the teleporting blob wiping out any offenders structure within two simple timers and even make profit while doing it.

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He has no problem punching down but feels feels it’s “unfair” having to punch up. He can’t SAY that of course hence the misdirection.

Imperium is already withdrawing from the TTC treaty based on this change, so unless you actually really know what goes on in high level null groups you probably shouldn’t be so quick to judge. I think more of them want the same thing than you think.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/149gqv4/effective_tomorrow_the_imperium_will_be/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1

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https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/149gqv4/effective_tomorrow_the_imperium_will_be/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1

Part of the motivation for this post. Thanks for posting this! Excellent news.

“Initiative is taking a stance that “super coalitions” are bad for the game and want more alliance v alliance conflict and are setting an example for a more content rich eve online. Additionally, they no longer are part of the TTT agreement” -sources

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Fortizar can fit one.