The Hypocrisy Of The 'I Hate PvP' Miners

Crap, it won’t let change it from the heart. Knee jerk reaction I guess…

You read this stuff as much as I and we both see players like Uta asking for a free ride when mining. “I just want to chill with my friends.” If you want to exempt mining ships from pvp, it may actually work? Mission runners lose ships, null used to lose big ships but that seems to have reduced over the yrs. With the plethora of mining ships out there reproducing like rabbits, I don’t see why thay should be exempt.

But a lot of new players seem to think they will get paid even if there is no demand.

Edit; spelling

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Those are MY sandwiches tyvm. And I dont share.

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Fair enough haha, to each their own ^^ for some, ships have more value, meaning when it’s something you have built on your own from scratch. Sentimental value & all. But I totally understand the distaste for the activity itself ^^

and why would that be ?
why cant ppl like to gather resources and sell/build with em
but have absolutly no itnerest in pvp

i realy wonder why that is a boring bad thing
like the ppl said you choose ur path
why does that HAS to include pvp ?

Fixed it for you…

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Resource gathering is PvP, you’re competing with others for them. Industry is PvP, because the products end up on the market - where you’re competing with others via buy and sell orders.

I also agree with Arthur on this. I pretty sure that most of the veteran miners…and some new ones…that have been here for at least a few years fully understand how the ore market works and what it takes to sustain it. I would also agree with you about many not knowing how it all works. Weve seen some pretty good examples in some of these threads already.

Ive been mining almost full time since i made this character in 2010. Ive met many very market savvy miners in my time here. They were all very well verse in it all…from the actual mining it, checking the prices, knowing when to sell, etc. Many of them i would go as far to say they were the true “Excel Online” warriors…like extreme style.

I learned a lot from those people…many of the small tricks of the trade i still use today, and they still work.

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That’s the difference. Vets can adapt to anything except Blackout! :rofl:

And yes, some new players can accept the risk and make it work. But most new players just want to play a cool game with no risk.

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It’s not allowed.

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Its allowed as long they pay Aiko for a permit! :wink:

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You really think that propaganda crap is true, hm?

In reality fc(ccp) spawns every imaginable market item INTO the market at any time they want it to be there and in doing this manipulate every price imaginable.

Sry, another failed reality check by you…

The legend of ‘the players control the market’ is utterly BS…it’s fcccp’s market and THEY manipulate you into thinking you would have ANY grip on the game…

How can otherwise obviously intelligent people really believe they are NOT manipulated…just lift the curtain to see what lies behind…there are too many items that SPONTAINOUSLY appear on the market in large quantities to effect others…

you hope…

They do because fccp manipulates the market the second the price goes under a defined threshold.

This is the case for every item on the market…every single one…

Some people tell us that they don’t want to interfere with PVP at all and that they just mine and roam in the systems to chill out after a day at work. They say, they don’t care about the value of the products they mine.

Fine. Exordium was created for rookies and specially for those kind of people.

No PVP in Exordium. Grade-0 ore with near zero value but not a problem if you don’t care about the value of your mining.

You can roam and chill in a zero risk environment. Of course, no risk means very low rewards but if it’s not your goal after all it won’t be a drawback.

Can we tell CCP solved your problem?

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I see you are still typing unsubstantiated claims for which you have zero evidence. That is your entire style. Just invent stuff and demand it is true for no good reason other than that you say so.

Oh, the irony; regardless of what you’re calling yourself these days - Ari Kolapa, Hysan Tyrosur, Balos Tritapo, Traco Miritu, Duro Peripar, Darlo Kubika and god alone knows how many more aliases - you’ve been failing reality checks for nearly a decade, and you can’t even be bothered to change the script.

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The sole fact that you even made this up to devalue my post just because you do not like what i say tells enough about you…spitting random made up names into the forum as accusation that i HAVE TO be a ‘troll’ of some kind is stupid on a complete other level.

Does an ai help you with creating these names or did you come up with them all by yourself?

Both versions are sad…

I proved every single of these ‘claims’.

It is you who did not accept said proves because they do not fit into your agenda.

This is very very sad and borders on fake news niveau…

What cannot be(true) has not to be(true)…

Because it cannot be(true)…

And now consider if it’s wise to even answer, because in doing so you only devalue your reputation more…

None of it is made up, it’s fairly obvious who your past alts are to those that have been around long enough to have encountered your previous incarnations.

And no, I didn’t need an AI to create those names, all of them are characters that have spouted the exact same rhetoric that you’re spouting now, you haven’t changed the script since 2018. All of them have been biomassed in the past, just as Uta Atmai will be in the future.

Would you like me to link them and their posts that are almost identical to yours in phrasing, misunderstandings, deflections, creative interpretations and ‘alternative facts’? I’m game, if you are.

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Nope…that is a complete lie. In fact not only have you not provided evidence for your claims…but others including myself have provided actual stats from CCP that prove your claims are wrong. It is by now quite apparent to everyone that you have zero interest in the actual facts but just want to endlessly rant a particular narrative that simply isn’t true.

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