The Internet

[Kobran_Ruthless_Vaidrich]

@Linus_Gorp

That is exactly what capitalism is you insensitive clod. The government imposing rules on your free market is contrary to true capitalism. You want a market free of government interference? Then feel free to also deal with the consequences.

Hint: They won’t be pretty.

No you idiot. Capitalism does not mean let businesses do whatever they want. Time to get your alt out kiddo.

[Kobran_Ruthless_Vaidrich]

@Linus_Gorp

Now if you tell me you’re a US citizen and perhaps also believe in the free market, then I won’t be able to stop laughing for literally hours!

That’s because you have no idea what you are talking about, therefore you don’t understand my point either.

[violator2k5]

@Linus_Gorp

Don’t you know that that is the predominant viewpoint of US citizens? The world begins and ends in their country. Everyone outside of it are just lesser beings that can be invaded whenever it furthers the interests of the US.

There are people like that in all countries, while the US may have more its because of how most of them are raised. I’ve been there a few times and I’ve seen first hand the love they have for their country… hell they even raise their flag at kids swim meets and everyone gets up n places their hand on their heart. Their love of food is to much though, they have the highest obesity rate in the world.

[Lulu_Lunette]

@Linus_Gorp

Don’t you know that that is the predominant viewpoint of US citizens? The world begins and ends in their country. Everyone outside of it are just lesser beings that can be invaded whenever it furthers the interests of the US.

An irony

[Ramona_McCandless]

@Kobran_Ruthless_Vaidrich

The government should be there only to keep a level playing field. There is no reason why it can’t exist apart from government corruption.

What is “it”?

[Ramona_McCandless]

Yeah but it does though

[Ramona_McCandless]

@Linus_Gorp

Don’t you know that that is the predominant viewpoint of US citizens? The world begins and ends in their country. Everyone outside of it are just lesser beings that can be invaded whenever it furthers the interests of the US.

Hear hear.

US Citizens think they have the right to determine and dominate the rest of us. THis is a fallacy that is surely shown by their choice of commander in chief of their military.

[Alexi_Stokov]

Does no one realize that in the 90s Clinton and congress decided on a hands off approach to the Internet? People are acting as if there had been regulation for the last 20 years. Where were you all ( the we’re all totally screwed people) during that whole time?

[Linus_Gorp]

@Kobran_Ruthless_Vaidrich

No you idiot. Capitalism does not mean let businesses do whatever they want. Time to get your alt out kiddo.

@Kobran_Ruthless_Vaidrich

That’s because you have no idea what you are talking about, therefore you don’t understand my point either.

Dunning–Kruger effect

@Kobran_Ruthless_Vaidrich

The government should be there only to keep a level playing field.

Do tell, do you want a regulated market, or a free market? The pinnacle of capitalism is a market free of any and all regulation. By your own words, that is exactly what you want, yet you also say you want government regulation to impose a equal playing field for everyone, which goes against your true capitalism.

I mean, you’re so god damn uneducated on the subject that it’s really surprising nobody called you out on it yet.

[Linus_Gorp]

@Ramona_McCandless

US Citizens think they have the right to determine and dominate the rest of us. THis is a fallacy that is surely shown by their choice of commander in chief of their military.

US adults are dumber than the average human

It’s not at all a fallacy. Look at their internal and foreign politics, their history, their actions and their viewpoint they spread all around.
Trump with his America First is the embodiment of their believe in superiority. That the orange head is a driveling idiot is by no means any proof against the US’ view on the rest of this planet, it’s proof for it. If they weren’t as badly educated as they are, stuck in their believes of supreme superiority, then perhaps they’d be able to understand why the majority outside the US hates the US with a passion. If they’d care (which I highly doubt) is another question entirely.

[Ramona_McCandless]

Maybe I should have said “They think they can judge whats right for the rest of us”, as that would be the incorrect conclusion, given their choice etc

[Linus_Gorp]

@Ramona_McCandless

Maybe I should have said “They think they can judge whats right for the rest of us”, as that would be the incorrect conclusion, given their choice etc

What choice?

[Rivr_Luzade]

@Linus_Gorp

What choice?

Voting against GoldmanSachs Clinton and for Trump, who promptly put more GoldmanSachs into legislative power than Clinton could ever have.
Calling child molestation victims out as the actual criminals because they did not immediately file charges against a politician.
Believing that companies do the right thing when even the recent history of the last 3 years is littered with examples how powerful companies abuse their power over government, consumers and society at large.
Only 3 things doubting the capability to make correct choices for the large parts of the US population.
As for ISPs:

AT&T wants you to forget that it blocked FaceTime over cellular in 2012

Comcast deleted net neutrality pledge the same day FCC announced repeal

Comcast throttling BitTorrent was no big deal, FCC says

And so on, and so forth. The general incompetence runs very deep in the US at the moment.

@Linus_Gorp

Nah, we have the equivalent of Net Neutrality as European law.

We do, but it is way weaker than it should be and technically also allows for fast lanes and the European Parliament voted down more stringent rules.

European Parliament votes against net neutrality amendments

[Kobran_Ruthless_Vaidrich]

Still don’t get it do you, clown.

[Linus_Gorp]

@Kobran_Ruthless_Vaidrich

Still don’t get it do you, clown.

There just isn’t anything to get. You do not understand the subject you’re commenting on and because you’re so god damn uneducated you believe the fault on that lies with others instead of yourself (-> Dunning Kruger).

ISPs in the US have a monopoly position that’s further entrenched with heavy lobbying. It’s literally impossible for them to die off until that changes. Net Neutrality has nothing at all to do with that. Net Neutrality means they have to treat all traffic equal, not more.

So I seriously don’t get how you managed to pull your

@Kobran_Ruthless_Vaidrich

What I was saying is that big companies should be allowed to die, rather than imposing rules to ensure they don’t, like the net neutrality repeal does.

out of your ass. THEY HAVE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH EACH OTHER!

[Kobran_Ruthless_Vaidrich]

@Linus_Gorp

There just isn’t anything to get. You do not understand the subject you’re commenting on and because you’re so god damn uneducated you believe the fault on that lies with others instead of yourself (-> Dunning Kruger).

You don’t understand the point I was making, that’s all that is happening here clown.

The point I was making is that net neutrality shouldn’t be repealed simply as a favour to certain business in order for them to make more money. I used the term ‘true’ capitalism to differentiate from the version in operation at the moment, where the highest bidder makes the rules. I used the term ‘dying off’ to make the point that companies should adapt or fail, instead of being saved at the expense of others, I was not saying that any companies will die as a result. If net neutrality is bad news for some, it’s tough ■■■■.

It wasn’t a hard point to grasp, unless it’s you reading of course, and the absolute accuracy of the terminology is not the important part of the message, and as usual it’s the most unimportant parts you decide to jump on for no other reason apart from trying to get one up on somebody. Like I said you’re PATHETIC.

[Linus_Gorp]

@Kobran_Ruthless_Vaidrich

The point I was making is that net neutrality shouldn’t be repealed simply as a favour to certain business in order for them to make more money. I used the term ‘true’ capitalism to differentiate from the version in operation at the moment, where the highest bidder makes the rules.

In your “true capitalism”, lobbying isn’t necessary and you would also be even worse off than you’re in your current somewhat-regulated market. But of course you couldn’t think that far.

@Kobran_Ruthless_Vaidrich

I used the term ‘dying off’ to make the point that companies should adapt or fail, instead of being saved at the expense of others, I was not saying that any companies will die as a result.

You say something and then in the same sentence say that what you just said isn’t actually what you said. Mind-blowing!

@Kobran_Ruthless_Vaidrich

and the absolute accuracy of the terminology is not the important part of the message

I beg to differ. When I mean yellow, I say yellow and not blue. Yellow and blue aren’t quite the same thing. Just like “full” and “partial” aren’t. Well, unless of course it’s you that’s posting.

@Kobran_Ruthless_Vaidrich

and as usual it’s the most unimportant parts you decide to jump

Interesting that you consider your “point” in its entirety unimportant. Then why even post in the first place? Oh I know, because you think you understand something when you actually don’t get anything at all! You know what we call that?

Dunning–Kruger effect

[Kobran_Ruthless_Vaidrich]

@Linus_Gorp

You say something and then in the same sentence say that what you just said isn’t actually what you said. Mind-blowing!

It’s not that hard to understand. You’re doing this on purpose now so whatever.

[Linus_Gorp]

@Kobran_Ruthless_Vaidrich

and as usual it’s the most unimportant parts you decide to jump on

Accuses me of something, proceeds to do it himself in the very next post. I didn’t bother enough to check above if you’ve already done it before, but I’m almost certain you did.

You’re right, Dunning Kruger really doesn’t do you any justice. You’re worse.

@Kobran_Ruthless_Vaidrich

You’re doing this on purpose now so whatever.

Now? I’ve been doing this on purpose since my first post in this thread. If I were after a remotely intellectual discussion, I wouldn’t have posted on the EVE forums, but a more appropriate medium.
I’m genuinely surprised you managed to catch on at all. My point still stands. You still have zero clue what you talk about, what capitalism is and what net neutrality is about. Go and educate yourself.

[ISD_Stall]

Okay here is the deal. I have been following this thread since it was made, I have been reading every message. I just got to my computer for the first time today, and I saw a large number of reports and even more inappropriate posts. As such I have removed over 10 replies.

I will continue to monitor this thread, if this conduct continues I will close this thread very quickly and escalate certain people to the community team.