“if”. So it does not, unless they actually want it. Thank you, that exactly is what I was saying.
People from US can’t be found culprit because of the law in Finland, even if they break the Finnish law in US. If you show a weapon in US you can’t be fined for the reason that the finnish law prohibits this.
The irony is that laws in the US and Finland are most likely the same thing.
You just killed your own argument for the fifth time already.
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And as I said it is just an example. Also what you just said is stupid, just because they are “most likely the same thing” does not make them “the same thing”.
So the irony is that you are not able to understand the thing, yet claim other people should leave if they can’t understand.
Brb biomassing 
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Wanting to go to Finland and wanting to abide their laws are not necessarily mutually inclusive.
I understand your point about the laws of a player group not being the same as rules created by the developer. But if someone chooses to mine in high-sec without a permit, then there may be consequences to that choice. A miner might accept the action of mining, but they might initially oppose the potential consequences that they don’t like.
Regardless of the acceptance, or non acceptance, of the authority of a player group such as CODE., the potential for undesired consequences remains for non-compliance if they are enforced.
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No, you are misreading. I said accept the law, not abide them.
As I said before, you can accept laws and not abide them. Mafias is a good example, or just criminals - or even better, governments members.
Remember that laws protect people as much as they punish. People often enjoy the protection part, and avoid the punish part as much as they can.
Sorry, that was not my point. My point is that to be laws, they must only concern people who are in the group. The moment CODE starts making rules about people out of CODE corporation, they can’t be considered as laws.
Example, if Finland passes a law that says US citizen must eat coconut every monday, it is not a law, it’s just coconuts. Here is the exact same thing. CODE can claim “this is law”, the reality is, it is not. It’s just an empty claiming coconuts are laws : it’s stupid.
Sure, there are consequences to playing in a pvp oriented game. So what ?
How does it make it a law of some kind ?
Remember, your “permit” does not protect anyone from ig mechanism. That’s why it’s a scam.
If you undock, you can lose your ship to players. That’s not a law, that’s just how the game goes.
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law
noun
the system of rules [the New Halaima Code of Conduct] which a particular country [Highsec] or community [The New Order] recognizes as regulating the actions of its members [Highsec Citizens] and which it may enforce by the imposition of penalties [usually death].
James 315 was elected by proxy in 2012 as leader of Highsec. There’s really nothing more to add here. Lol.
Saviour have mercy on you.
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And it does not apply because all [ HS citizen ] are not members of [ CODE ]. In other word, CODE law only applies to CODE members - which is exactly what I’ve been telling you.
So with this definition you are confirming what I said in previous post.
to quote yourself,
They live in highsec, therefore the law applies to them regardless of their opinion.
What’s hard to understand there? Lol
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No it does not. HS law applies , not CODE’s.
Again, CODE law can only apply to CODE members, not HS members. only HS law is concord’s crimewatch.
You are fighting against the definition you brought by yourself.
What’s so hard to understand ? If it goes beyond the group of people, then it’s not a law. It’s actually very simple and yet you fail to understand that. You are willing to “not understand”, so please leave your thread as you asked.
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If you are in a territory, that territory’s laws apply to you regardless of you liking it or not, or living there or just passing through.
The laws are made and enforced by the leaders and enforcers of said territory.
In this case, Highsec is the territory.
The New Halaima Code of Conduct its law.
James 315 the leader.
The New Order its enforcers.
I can’t word this any simpler.
I’m not even going to bother replying to you since you’ll just try to devolve this even more. Or you’ll start putting words in my mouth like last time.
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Where in your definition was there the notion of territory ? There was none.
So you are wrong 
Laws do not apply to a territory but to the members of a group. They can be limited to a territory, partially or not. eg you can be judged as a finish citizen, according to finish laws, for a crime you made in a foreign country - even if you accepted the foreign country’s laws when going there.
Typically if you are AFK in NS you can be culprit as a member of CODE, the same as if you are AFK in HS, unless CODE explicitly states that this law does not apply outside of HS.
It’s good that you finally start following your own advices. That means you started growing up. Maybe your sentences will start making sense in a few years, mister “nobody ever was killed by a gun”.
Yet we are all citizens of New Eden. The Nee Order enforces the law as decreed by James. Follow or not, you are held to these standards.
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Your words come from a place of complete incompetence. You make claims like this:
This is so wrong, it’s almost impossible to read coherently. The Code is a set of laws made specifically for High Sec. The New Order does not care what you do in Null or Low sec. It’s been this way for 7 years.
Take time to educate yourself before you start insulting people about their intelligence.
If you continue to post without knowing the facts your just trolling.
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learn to read before you tell me what to do.
I tell you in which case it applies or not. Not that it does apply -.-
If tomorrow CODE law do not state that the law only applies in HS, then even if CODE only claims HS, then the laws will apply to all CODE members out of HS.
In ^this previous sentence^ I did not affirm that CODE law do state anything about NS. I tell you that the restriction of space in written in the law, but the restriction of citizenship is mandatory for a rule to be a law.
I don’t, as I am not member of CODE.
Afraid I have to disagree with you. CODE does a few very valuable things:
- They provide risk to highsec dwellers, which contrary to what many would say, does provide them the spice they need to not get bored of Eve
- Any destruction is good destruction. It’s healthy for the economy.
- It encourages some highsec dwellers to move out of highsec
There’s probably more, but from a purely pragmatic perspective, CODE is a good thing.
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Here here.
I agree with the other points, but not this :
source ?
also
- they enjoy the game and that makes it good for them (I mean, enjoying a game is a proof that is fulfills its role)
- they create RP which is good for the game
- they teach newbros some good behaviours
- they create risk in HS which is how the game was designed.
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I think I’m going to start doing bad things and claim that no law apply to me because I don’t love them
I should be safe right?
/s
Just as safe as claiming a random edicted rule is a law and should apply to anybody.
This is indeed exactly the same thing. You make claims about things that you can not understand, as your claims are intrinsically absurd.
It’s funny that you realize how stupid it is, but only when you imagine someone else doing the same exact thing you are doing.
Stupid things other people do become meaningful things when you do it ? Sorry, no.