No, she’s not acting like you, Diana. She’s providing facts.
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The Caldari system is an oligarchy of corporations. Each corporation is it’s own dictatorial entity and is thus fascist (not capitalist as is often claimed, capitalism depends on freedom, not authoritarianism). Oligarchy and oligoploy are not conducive to innovation and strong economic growth. Economic growth hinges on specialization and innovation. In both cases individuals need to be relatively sure that the results of their labor and creativity will not be appropriated by others. When this trust is no present then the incentives to specialize and be more productive and to be innovative and reduce costs/improve products are greatly reduced, thus hobbling economic progress and growth.
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Patently false. Capitalism is an economic model, not a political model. You can have capitalist dictatorships, capitalist anarchies, and everything in between, just as you can have purely socialist dictatorships, purely socialist democracies… heck, pure communism is somewhere between democracy and anarchy: there’s no ‘governing body’, just everyone agreeing on everything.
Which, you know, is one of the reasons pure communismi can’t work: people won’t agree.
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No, not I did not say innvention, but innovation. And I also noted specialization. Both require individuals to accomplish this. If I am going to become more specialized, I’ll become more productive and as such I need assurance my increased productivity is not going to be (largely) appropriated. Same thing with innovation, think of innovation as lowering costs or improving a goods quality. Again, if my creativity is going to be largely appropriated why would I do it, especially when it cannot be seen?
The point is that innovation and specialization are what drive economic growth to a large extent. Without these you’ll get some growth, but of a very tepid nature. Consider that with 4% growth GDP will double every 18 years whereas with 2% growth it will double every 36 years. And to get that kind of growth you need for people to have enough freedom to try new and different ideas…ideas that cannot be deemed good or bad ex ante. Any attempt to try and micro manage these things will result in lower rather than higher growth…at best.
That is the essence of capitalism. Trial an error, private profits and private losses. Anything else and you are giving up the goose that lays the golden egg. No business person likes capitalism, they will always seek to thwart it via government power. And in the case of the Caldari the businesses are the government. They’ll shut down, subvert or steal anything that will threaten their power. Come up with a new idea and try to go it on your own…you’ll be destroyed. Got a idea that could revolutionize things, the corporations will shut it down, both as a threat to their hegemony and their inability to determine what will and will not work ex ante.
No business person likes private ownership of business?
I really think you might need to revise your definition of capitalism to include, maybe… capitalism.
Nor does either invention or innovation particularly require capitalism or specialization, in and of themselves. It’s just that most technologies in current use are mature enough there’s a certain degree of specialization already present in the individuals who are working in those fields, and right now, pretty much all of the empires of New Eden are primarily capitalist in their economics.
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What the Hel is a Communist?
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How does the State even produce people like you? Quite the failed system…
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A particularly statist form of socialism.
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Mr. Biko identifies as a “communist,” if I remember right. I don’t think he’s particularly statist, though-- maybe more kind of a melancholy utopian idealist?
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As far as I remember, communism is a sort of ideology, that advocates formula “everyone gives to society whatever he can, and recieves from the society whatever he needs,” it also implies abolishment of private property and currency. However, even logically this formula simply can’t work: while human abilities are quite limited, their desires are not, and, eventually, every society built on communist principles will go bankrupt.
The State operates though on collectivist ideology, that may sound like communist for some ears, but it is definitely not. Collectivism implies that you put interests of your organization above your own individual interests. And it is not a strict rule or obligation that you have to follow, like standard corporate laws, because, lets be honest, it’s impossible to control, unless you are Sansha (and who in their sane mind would want to be Sansha? ha~)
In the State it is an ideal, it is a merit.
If people will feel you are following it, they will give you road, they will support you, and you will go far. But if people will feel that you are an individualistic swine like gallente, they won’t get from your way, they will simply ignore you, and eventually you’ll sink.
Because another defining ideology of our society is Meritocracy. And starting with Tibus Heth’s reforms (New Meritocracy) it even becomes enforced legally.
Caldari society is highly mobile, hypercompetetive, unforgiving to weaknesses and errors, it grinds people , mixes, sorts, collides… And the more merits you have, the faster you rise. The less merits you have the faster you sink. By showing enough merit you can rise from a forklift operator to Executor of whole State just in a couple of months.
Our State is not utopia, it is not ideal and doesn’t feed you with any promises (like same Federation with their blab-bla freedums and democrazies), the State only gives you more opportunities than any other faction.And as a Citizen you must forge your own destiny, on the State anvil with Caldari hammer, with your own strength, dedication and sweat, just like the Maker forged us to be humans, strong and smart enough to survive in this harsh and inhospitable world known as New Eden.
Hey that’s not nice! I feel slightly insulted.
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I am sorry, Ms. Deva! I didn’t mean you.
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Aww, thank you! 
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How can it go bankrupt if it abolishes currency?
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Morally…
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You say you will win and you will push them back but you appear to have absolutely no understanding of tactics and that is why you will fail. Brute force will not win the day, and because of that, you have already lost.
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Don’t be silly. She’s not going to win because ultimately, the State has already agreed not to win, and doesn’t want to win. She’s also not going to lose, because the Federation’s agreed to exactly the same thing, for exactly the same reasons.
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Yeah, I was just going from her point of view. Debate from her point of view and win on her terms and she is beaten
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They do not like the competition that capitalism entails. Business people will always look for ways to reduce competition and one easy way to do it is via the State. Have the State use it’s power to limit competition. If I can have my rivals put out of business then I have more market power and can charge higher prices. Businessmen usually make terrible capitalists.
I think you need to sit down and re-think what capitalism means. Businesses are not terribly keen on the idea of competition that will erode away economic profits. Would you rather run a monopoly or would you rather run a competitive firm? Most want the former, not the latter.
Capitalism entails competition and competition is going to drive innovation and even invention far more than any other system. If I can gain a competitive advantage via innovation that lowers my costs relative to my competitors I will earn an economic profit. Profit is comprised of 2 components, normal profits which covers the costs of production, plus the opportunity costs of owner-manager of the firm (the entrepreneur). The second part are economic profits which are profits over and above normal profits.
Competition drives economic profits to zero over time. As noted, if I can lower my costs via innovation then I’ll enjoy higher profits until my competitors either copy my innovation (and thus lower their costs) or find their own innovation which reduces costs.
However, as a monopolist I can set my price to earn an economic profit without fear that competition will erode that profit away. After all, if you start to compete the power of the State is used to eliminate that threat to my profits. This is also true of oligopolies as well. Oligopolies would love to have a way to engage in cartel like behavior and have an enforcement mechanism to punish cheaters. When one looks at the Caldari system that is exactly what they have. So the Caldari are not capitalist…they are corporatists. They reject economic liberalism (i.e. capitalism).
Instead the economic process is to be guided and controlled by the State via the CEP and the megacorporations. Capitalism would not limit economic activity in such a manner.
Because currency is not what determines bankruptcy or more accurately the failure of a State. A State has failed when basic functions no longer work. When there is not enough food, not enough energy production to keep things like transit systems running, etc. This can happen with and without money.