Tranquility DDoS - 2020/05/03-08

Working as intended.

I did read, that’s why I replied to both you and to Excalibur’s answer to you to add some stuff to it.

If you’re saying there’s no way that many missiles should be able to hit you if the missiles have a 14 second flight time and he normally fires every 5 seconds, and thus you got hit by 75 seconds worth of missiles within a few secs… good point.

NPCs cheat in this game, I’m sure the flight time on his missiles aren’t really 14 seconds. they’re as long as CCP made it to make sure we couldn’t outrun them forever. :wink:

But as I told you already, the answer is to keep moving the entire time so they don’t all catch up like that. Once he’s dead, they despawn. OR… you can just move slowly the whole time so they do hit you but not all at once (orbit without prop mod). but since you said gila, that means missiles and drones so you don’t have to worry about your ship’s tracking, so just prop mod orbit him to be extra safe until he is deeeeeead, like I said.

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its just a lag my dear… and purpose of post is just to share unordinary thing, until we get back as ususal.

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Guyse, DDoS attacks are more common than ever:

they need to add new skill in social : “CCP connections”, so with each level we can get 5% reduction in time to get response from support department :slight_smile:

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Unable to connect to the server at this time.

Hey guys,

Despite the ongoing DDoS situation, our services have been stable with the vast majority of players able to log in to EVE and play without huge interruptions. That’s very good. However, the threat is not over and we want you to be aware that issues from the last few days may still occur. Our teams remain hard at work making sure the impact from any upcoming attacks is greatly reduced.

The customer support team has been in overdrive trying to get through the influx of petitions from players. The waiting times might be higher than normal but our brave Game Masters will respond to everyone as soon as this is possible.

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Waiting times might be a problem, unless you are @GM_Zyra. ■■■■■■■ Lightning McQueen.

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Tranquility it"s OK but Singularity no work

Wow. Someone failed Philosophy 101 (Logic and Reasoning).

First of all, I’m not claiming I know a thing to be true.

I’m claiming that there is no evidence, and there should be, of a DDoS attack on any of the internet traffic monitoring sites. “Proving” the lack of something is extraordinarily difficult, but there are quite a few sites out there that track and report these things in both real time and historically and none of them are aware of any significant DDoS attack and certainly none with London or Icelandic destinations.

Unless you’re claiming that all of the internet traffic monitoring sites are in cahoots to discredit CCP, it’s blindingly clear to anyone with more than five functioning brain cells that there is no DDoS attack.

Unless you can provide proof that all of the internet traffic monitoring sites are colluding to deceive us, we’ll accept that as a fact.

If it’s a fact that there’s no DDoS attack disrupting CCPs services, then CCP is lying to us (or so misinformed or ignorant of the situation that it amounts to the same thing given their degree of responsibility for knowing what’s going on).

That’s a sound, valid, deductive conclusion.

If we can with that much certainty conclude that this is not a DDoS attack and that CCP is lying to us then the addition of one more fact, that this started precisely when the patch before last was applied, means that CCP likely knows they’re lying and are covering it up and shifting the blame to avoid responsibility for it.

That’s a strong, cogent inductive conclusion.

That’s how it works.

Given this as a fact: There are more apples this year than ever before.

And this as a fact: John ate fruit for lunch.

This is not a supportable conclusion: John ate an apple for lunch.

That’s not how logic works.

There are monitoring sites out there that track internet threats - six or seven of them - and none of them show any DDoS attack on Eve’s servers (or London or Iceland in general).

Sharing the information here as well. We are going to have an extended downtime tomorrow to implement further upgrades to harden the cluster against attack. Updates will be shared in this forum thread and via EVE_Status Twitter.

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Unable to log in again. And a couple of days since I submitted a ticket where I took a 4.5B ISK loss due to everyone in local channel being blue and then flying into a well established war target gate camp. Ongoing issues logging on and in game with my alt’s account. I am sure you lot are working on it, but I really hope tomorrow solves some of these issues.

Horsefeathers and likewise Applesauce. The digital attack map I accessed shows a spike from China and Malaysia in fragmentation and (from Malaysia) what the site categorizes as “unusual” attacks. Big peak on May 5, but ongoing with GB as target.

So, no attacks, huh? I think I smell a DDoSer stirring the pot. Otherwise it is someone who should be abandoning the game with that sort of attitude.

I am leaving the game, but I have considerably lower criticism of CCP. I am thinking I could spend my time better as an Indie game dev seeing what I can cook up on open world using some exhaustive AI chatbots in Python and PyPy, but not necessarily MMO. Single player with free updates is good enough for me, and I do have a history of storytelling. It is a lot of work, but there are some awesome free tools lying around.

I am concerned that the release schedule by the management is too aggressive for CCP. Someone needs to tell the chickens they are still chickens and need to listen to the pigs about sprints. Of course with the social distancing needed right now, they probably need to move not to Agile but rather to Async and they seem to be using neither. Waterfall model is not viable with software this size. Even the most competent devs can have their efforts ruined by last-minute features and grandiose ideas and by feeling rushed.

Alexander Pope wrote “A little learning is a dangerous thing . Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian Spring; There shallow draughts intoxicate the brain, and drinking largely sobers us again.” I am not sure I have drunk deeply enough myself, but the negative Cube appears to have skimmed the surface of net connectivity and accused the Devs of incompetence. As a long time dev, I have seen a few who were incompetent and others who performed poorly when feeling rushed but mostly they are a good group; the incompetent ones are left by the wayside pretty quickly.

So, I reject your narrative. If there is incompetence, it is the management. It is the process, and it is unlikely that anything is being covered up. But if you truly believe that, vote with your feet and walk away. Your posts fail, especially when you repeat unsubstantiated claims.

In addition, the major DDoS monitors check for accessing the usual culprits, not for subtle attacks sliding a flood at site-specific interprocess sockets, which can be mistaken for client-server chat in a complex game that extends beyond the usual REST ports. So no monitoring site results = No DDoS ? Obviously no bacteria = no infection, too. Except for those pesky viruses…

still waiting to hear what compensation we are getting for the time we have lost. Those were days that we couldn’t make isk, and couldn’t enjoy the game.

lack of compensation would indicate to me that ccp does not care, much like a ddos that continues to happen every month, and I refuse to believe that a high top end server provider wouldn’t have ways of greatly reducing them, which again points to people not caring. If ccp doesn’t care why should its player base? expect a lot of people to be leaving because of this and the choices update wise,being made to ‘harvest money’ from the game.

RIP EVE!!!

DDOS while simple to execute are very difficult to combat with out just outright refusing every request. Especially for a video game. There isn’t much they can do about preventing them. Yeah you paid for game time but there isn’t much CCP can do. Donno what compensation you want but anything that takes money or revenue away from CCP will just screw us over in another way. The situation sucks for sure, but it be like it is. They are obviously working hard on the issue. If they were just yolo-ing through it, the servers would be up after 5min. Then again you are probably trying to get nature to compensate you for the time lost due to corona as well…

while in theory im sure you’d like to think its so difficult to combat, the fact of the matter is, this game is one of the very few games that this happens to on a consistant basis and that is not a coincidence. To point out 1 very simple way it could have been combated and im not even a networking genius, just using simple logic here, it was reported by a few that they had no issues when they used a vpn to spoof theirselves into Iceland servers. so whats that tell you? they can only attack so many servers, aka backup servers work as just 1 of what I can only assume is countless ways to counter it.

Now as for compensation, we PAID for service, that was not rendered to us. you can pretend all you want that CCP is not responsible for providing us service, but you would be wrong. no business on earth stands in court and defends getting paid for not providing their service. It does not matter if they were ddos’d, that’s what insurance is for. They are paid to provide a service, they could not provide it, do not pass go, do not collect $200………this is business not keyboard warrior crap.

when my ISP service goes down, I call them up and even those scumbags refund my isk.

While the extended downtime is a bit more than annoying it is understandable. Thank you for the heads up. Please keep up the good work. Let us know if you discover those responsible so that we your userbase can heap disdain and taunts in their general direction.

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Glad a fix is being applied on a bank holiday FRIDAY, at a time no one is allowed to go outside due to the Covid-19 thing. Cluster fixes on a Friday and bank holidays have never worked out well in the history of all 3 generations of cluster hardware. well hope the double over time will be worth it, and this time doesn’t follow the historical cluster issues.

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