I don’t know about that as if the material is in nulsec what would the cost be to ship it to market?
I don’t know 80% zero loss of time?
You can safely assume that from all the people shooting at the TTT roughly 90% are ‘noobs’ when it comes to fully understanding the majority of all PvP mechanics. Especially those who made any kind of effort (like quickly changing Corp or even creating a new corp or a new alt and joining somewhere) just to fire two meaningless shots at the tower to appear on a killmail. Even more those who created tickets afterwards because their absolute meaningless participation is not properly reflected in a 200b killmail on their meanlingless zKill record.
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Almost an hour between whore and pop. Im pretty sure that anyone who touched the hull was listed.
Yeah its events like this that make a mockery of the stats in zkill.
Your new effectiveness rating is 99.9% after your recent 216BN kill.
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Buyback is usually twice that regardless of location
Zkill is nubbish. Think about it… 300 F1 monkeys get full credit, 301 killmails generated for every single nub frigate that jumps into the gate camp. so 1 loss and 300 wins. Thats dumb. Idk how to fix it and i wish zkill didnt exist. But thats not something the majority would agree with. Quality > Quantity. Maybe give a score for each ship, balanced against what you used to kill it. Then split the credit by 1/300 in this case. Isk value isnt the answer either because being poor isnt a virtue and risk should equal reward. If you want to fight an isk war with me, then you already lost.
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1 kill generates just 1 killmail. It just shows up for all the players that are involved in the kill according to the game.
I do not really care about the ‘value of kill mails’. Kill mails are nice intel, and a way to keep track of combat history for me.
Some people seem to think that kill mails are worth something, and that some kills are worth more than others.
Rest assured, the person who created zkillboard took that into account and added the concept of ‘points’ that are awarded for your kill mails. If you and a bunch of others kill a cruiser, you each get 1 point. If you manage to kill that same cruiser solo in a frigate, you get a few dozen points instead.
Your character for example has a total of 1 point for the keepstar kill, and a total of 21 points lost, one for each of the cyno Ventures you lost when moving your JF into Tama.
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But with 10% tidi…shouldn’t that equate to two and a half hours ?
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But it works equally fairly ( or unfairly ) across the board. And those who just jumped in without a wardec ( as hundreds did…the local log was full of people being Concorded ) will have a ‘loss’ record of 1 that counterbalances that kill of 1. I do agree that the ISK amount ‘killed’ is absurd though, as many got 215bn even if they fired just one shot. It ought to be pro rata of the percent of DPS for the kill.
zKill is great. zKill is a curse.
There are people that treat zKill as a tool. There are those that treat it as a ranking system.
The two greatest toxic kinds of people — the ones that treat others as pieces of 
— are:
- the people that don’t care about zKill because they are pacifists and morally justified in every action they take; and
- the zKill warriors that are allergic to red on their killboard and believe any loss is a sign of utter flawed weakness
zKill is best used in moderation.
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This is why I refuse to disgrace myself by doing something like whoring in on kills like the TTT. My record shows the damage I’ve either done myself, or provided a significant level of contribution toward.
What I proposed to Squizz is to add a “contribution factor” rating to the main stats, which averages out the percentage of contribution per kill based on the amount of involved parties. So if you have 2 kills, one with 2 parties on it and one with 20 parties, it would average .5 (50%) and .05 (5%) for a contribution factor of .275 (27.5%). It would be a good supplement for the solo ratio, and would take into account that some group kills are worth more than others (e.g. 2 vs 1 compared to 200 vs 1).
But the people there didn’t like that idea, and instantly shot it down. The logic used was along the lines of “just because you were one of 300 people shooting something doesn’t mean you didn’t contribute much more than others!” and “just because you weren’t on a kill doesn’t mean you didn’t contribute to it!” I think they might be missing the point, but it’s okay, I get it; people want those feel-good vibes of being an “elite warrior” and to be able to brag about their “skill” because they have 6,000 kills, even though they got most of them by firing one shot at a broadcasted target while in a fleet with 800 other players.
I’m not entirely sure how TiDi affects that honestly. I’m not 100% if ccp knows how TiDi affects everything. I know that somethings still count in normal time regardless of TiDi and others don’t. Some timers do, and some don’t. That does throw some weirdness into it for sure.
I disgraced myself terribly on that thing. That poor Reaper never knew what it did wrong to deserve that kind of CONCORD response.
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But there is no record anywhere of ‘Destiny didn’t fire on the TTT’…whereas there’s a record that I did. So which is going to be remembered in 10 years time ? To me that is all that matters in Eve. Doing something that nobody can look up is like a tree falling in a forest and no-one there to hear it.
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KM whoring is disgusting. But the Keepstar is the only one ive ever taken part in. I had to… ive been ranting and preaching about this fkn peace agreement and how terrible it is for years so it seemed like something i wanted a reminder of for myself… and Wes blew up my pod too.
OMGAD this brings me so much happiness.
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Well, that was prior to my criminal career and I was assisting CONCORD in making Perimeter safe for everyone.
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I shall take your word for it Ramona McCandless.
There not being a record of something happening is a record of something not happening, so I’m kind of confused by that.
Anyway, as a one-off I think it’s fine. But I’ve seen lots of players inflate their boards with these high-value kills, or stat-pad by dumping a bunch of unfitted frigates into space using an alt and then blowing them up. Like for example, if you look at the top character on zKill, it’s totally and completely padded. Then those players act like they’re actually skilled PvPers because of those big numbers, but if you look at the stats that actually matter, like the point-per-kill ratio, they’re absolute chumps (like for example TamiyaCowboy yelling about how “no one would want to mess with” him because he killed “tons of people,” despite having a grand total of a single lifetime solo kill to his record).
Personally, I’d rather have one of these:
…than a hundred of these:
I don’t think anyone’s acting like anything. People simply want a record that says ’ I was there…and shot at the TTT’. I mean, I went along knowing I’d probably be number 2000 on some list of 2500. Who cares. The tidi was so bad that in a whole hour I fired 75 rounds of Void at the TTT. I don’t expect some ’ great PvP-er’ award for it all. Just a record that I bothered to show up and endure 3.5 hours of tidi.
How killboard ultimately displays stuff is quite another matter.
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