Understanding and Dealing with Ganks and Gankers

[Aiko_Danuja]

There could be an extra popup whenever you activate a mining laser.

[DeMichael_Crimson]

@Destiny_Corrupted

All you had to do was say that it’s a misquote, and that you’re not actually against it. Now I can remove your name from my prior post.

No, you outright lied and even insisted that it was true after I said it wasn’t.

@Destiny_Corrupted

Are you saying that you’re fine with a rookie venturing out into low-sec and losing their barge or exploration frigate to pirates? What about 10-billion-ISK marauders or even more expensive freighters piloted by null-sec alts getting killed during suicide-ganks in high-sec?

Like I said earlier, there’s a big difference between non-consensual PvP and High Sec Suicide ganking which you won’t acknowledge. Those who aren’t actively looking for a PvP encounter and travel / operate in Low, Null or W-hole space should expect to be involved in non-consensual PvP… and too bad for them if it does happen.

The victims of High Sec Suicide Ganking is totally different and those who actively engage in it should be subject to a 3-strike rule, after which then be branded as a habitual criminal with KoS status in High Sec space.

Now stop dragging me back into this convo.

[Destiny_Corrupted]

“Are you sure you want to do this? What are you even doing with your life? If you hit yes, there’s a not insignificant chance your ship will self-destruct in protest.”

[Aiko_Danuja]

@DeMichael_Crimson

The victims of High Sec Suicide Ganking is totally different

Why? CCP allows ganking in HIghsec. It’s part of the game.

Crying about it doesn’t change anything. You should probably accept reality.

When I was a new player, I recognized this on my first day, and I thought about it and decided, “Ok, that’s cool, I think I’ll start shooting miners too.” Why not? It’s fun.

What’s the problem here?

[DeMichael_Crimson]

You’re the only one crying about it.

Now sod off already…

[Aiko_Danuja]

Right, I’m crying about the fact that ganking is allowed.

I’m so sad about it. Boohoo. Hat social path gunker greefs. Yep.

[Destiny_Corrupted]

I think I see what my error was. I attributed the desire for removal of non-consensual PvP to DMC, whereas instead I should have attributed to DMC a lack of concern for new players getting blown up outside of high-sec, but insistence on making bloated PvE farmers and/or their hauler alts as safe as possible in high-sec.

[Aiko_Danuja]

Ahhhhh, yes, non-consensual PvP for other people is ok… it’s only when it affects him, that’s when he doesn’t like it. Now I understand.

[Destiny_Corrupted]

I think Safety. needs to look into the possibility of adopting a new policy: not ganking any miner under, say, 3 months old, and waiting for them to get into big, expensive barges to gank them then. That way they will be much more receptive to the lesson that PvP can happen anywhere, and would be much better able to recover from their loss and adapt to this knowledge.

Besides Aiko, having a kill board that’s 98% trial-account Ventures in 1.0 space just looks bad.

[Destiny_Corrupted]

@DeMichael_Crimson

The victims of High Sec Suicide Ganking is totally different and those who actively engage in it should be subject to a 3-strike rule, after which then be branded as a habitual criminal with KoS status in High Sec space.

Oh, I forgot to mention: it pretty much takes only 3 (sometimes 4) suicide ganks to become an outlaw. The one person I suicide-ganked over the past year (an AFK Hulk with about 1B worth of gear) took my character from 0.00 to -1.92.

So what you want is already in the game anyway.

[Aiko_Danuja]

Actually, when I’m feeling a little evil, I will refrain from ganking Ventures… this way they feel safe and decide to get a bigger ship. I even ignore retrievers from time to time.

[MB_ThePhotographer]

I used to call that tactic the sucker punch!

[Destiny_Corrupted]

@Aiko_Danuja

Actually, when I’m feeling a little evil, I will refrain from ganking Ventures… this way they feel safe and decide to get a bigger ship. I even ignore retrievers from time to time.

[Githany_Red]

@Aiko_Danuja

@Ridley_Rohan

That some gankers are helpful is true. But its also true that some are griefers.

I have to disagree, I don’t know any gankers that are griefers. I’d say it’s the friendliest group of people in the game.

So for new people reading this Aiko is a griefer ganker type , she will scam you if she can , She is the Bandit Outlaw and self-proclaimed princess of the gankers.

90% of what she says will be a lie and you don’t have to take my word for it , just read her blog.
It’s all there.

On the other hand many in this post are in fact trying to help new and uninformed players .

It’s up to you to pick who’s advice you take

[Aiko_Danuja]

Githany calls me a liar, yet urges people to read my blog to learn the truth.

[Githany_Red]

If they want to learn about ganking then it seems obvious to read your blog . Also watch some ganker streamers to see how involved the whole process of ganking is, being informed will allow for your survival.

Warning her blog can be harsh and inhuman at times. Viewers discretion advised

[Aiko_Danuja]

Did you just deny my humanity?

[Githany_Red]

Of your blog ,yes

[Aiko_Danuja]

You silly, it’s a blog, it’s not a person!

[DeMichael_Crimson]

@Destiny_Corrupted

I think I see what my error was. I attributed the desire for removal of non-consensual PvP to DMC, whereas instead I should have attributed to DMC a lack of concern for new players getting blown up outside of high-sec, but insistence on making bloated PvE farmers and/or their hauler alts as safe as possible in high-sec.

Heh, I never said anything about making PvE farmers or Hauler alts being as safe as possible in High Sec.

You’re definitely a trollish little pudknocker. Don’t know what your obsession is with posting lies about me but it makes you look very immature. Seriously, grow the F up already.

@Destiny_Corrupted

@DeMichael_Crimson

The victims of High Sec Suicide Ganking is totally different and those who actively engage in it should be subject to a 3-strike rule, after which then be branded as a habitual criminal with KoS status in High Sec space.

Oh, I forgot to mention: it pretty much takes only 3 (sometimes 4) suicide ganks to become an outlaw. The one person I suicide-ganked over the past year (an AFK Hulk with about 1B worth of gear) took my character from 0.00 to -1.92.

So what you want is already in the game anyway.

Gawd, you seriously have a problem with reading comprehension. Which part about being branded as a Habitual Criminal with KoS status in High Sec space did you not understand?

Maybe you don’t understand what habitual means.

ha·bit·u·al

/həˈbiCH(o͞o)əl/

adjective

1. done or doing constantly or as a habit.

“this pattern of behavior can become habitual”

Similar:

constant, persistent, continual, continuous, perpetual, nonstop, recurrent, repeated, frequent, interminable, incessant, ceaseless, endless, relentless, unrelenting, never-ending, unremitting, sustained, unabating, eternal