Now, its a bug.
Everyone recognizes that Local should not be RNG based on EVE chat servers/services failing.
But that doesnt change that if Local was removed/delayed, all any corp needs to do, is watch the gate, with one character.
Bots are illegal.
Furthermore, nothing now or after change prevents an aggressor seating a cloaked alt in a system to provide data to other aggressors.
Your arguments are not working.
I dont believe you are trolling, or deliberately posting on the side of self-interest, but I dont think you are thinking things through.
In a delayed Local intel system, bots cannot provide/access the data they can now.
In the current system, gate watching is not required, as every bot can access immediate Local intel anyways, anywhere in the system and react to it.
Would increased wormhole activity towards nullsec (which has been nerfed by CCP exactly for this reason) not counter this? Or do you believe they would just put in the activity necessary to scan them, scout them and possibly roll them as well?
In this regard I will only speak for my own group. We roll almost every hole in our pockets so that wormholers need to rage-roll to get an access.
In other words fewer people in space. Thank you that we established this now conclusively.
I am not trolling at all. Quite the contrary: I am only interested in content in null sec. However, everyone who argues that local needs to be removed or delayed is not interested in that goal at all. Those people are only interested in their own self-entitled gains and benefits from a system where not everyone has equal access to information any longer.
There are no contradictions if you consider everything I type and not just things you want to consider. In a delayed/removed local system, bots on gates can access all the information they need to feed the other bots ratting or mining and active people doing the same with more or less immediate intel from gates. And that even better than now because under the new system with the changed requirements they are on the gates and see what comes through instead of their current behavior of just warping out of their anom.
Many things are illegal. The fact that people still use them only shows that illegality means nothing without enforcement of the rules.
Sounds like a good approach. There was a thread about someone complaining about bombers bar rage-rolling, and how unfair it was. Do you believe they have a point? The person is most likely speaking for renters, btw.
No, its not less people in space, just at different hours.
If you want to rat/mine solo, when most of corp is offline, go ahead.
Yes, YOUR content.
Seems that is exactly what you are doing.
Removing/delaying Local has the same impact on information for everyone.
(Current situation is bugged, as CCP fked up the chat servers)
Bots are illegal.
Furthermore, no, its far simpler for a botter to react to Local intel, than data sent by a secondary advanced bot at a gate that can detect gating in hostiles without Local intel.
Also the gate bots cant detect WH intruders.
It also means that changes should be made to impair botting.
Removing/delaying Local intel would do that, de facto.
I am not defending anyone with this, simply correcting a misunderstanding.
Have standings visible on screen, in space, for every ship.
Have software take screenshot at regular interval.
Have software scan through the pixelbufferâs colours.
Even an idiot can write code to scan through an array of bytes, this is not in any way âadvancedâ.
I think you misunderstood it.
There was a bug that made possible to activate a mwd several times, thus reaching ludicrous speed and bumping ships out of POS. people using this bug were banned.
nope. It makes no difference between a VNI ratting for 20 minutes and 20 ships spending each 1min in system.
However the NPC delta helps your know where are ratters.
NOBODY CARES.
You completely miss their point here.
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Because he never played in null. Heâs just making generic statement that are completely out of the point here.
Bots playing Eve are agaisnt the EULA. Intel bots are not and are widespread. ratting bots are said to be much present, but if you need to spam dscan every 10s to not get dropped they will become more present. If your mechanism encourages bots, then there will be more bots.
Botters are using bots, not making them.
And people who use bot can easily use an already existing script which has OCR and warns you.
People who rat usually are in dead end system, so any people coming through the gates will be caught by a cloaked bot on one gate before reaching that dead end.
If we should have to play with delayed local we need changes how cynos and blops work its an unfair advantage to hunters to get in with a cyno then bridge your bombers in un-noticed. If cyno would have activation timer of lets say 30s and it would be seen in the overwiev that would give active ratters and miners enough time to react. Or another alternative is to limit ships getting through from cyno.
Btw, as far as I can tell, this was about cloaked ships sitting at gates. Ships coming in can have visible standings in space and on the overview, including neutrals when set up correctly. I apologize for it not fitting it into that tiny box of yours, though maybe sometimes you should try checking related boxes. You could learn that there are reasons why many people are having trouble communicating with you. : - )
You may have the last word, so you can make yourself feel better after reading this post.
Answering this question correctly requires to have perfect knowledge of the knowledge of bot using. Otherwise I canât affirm which part I donât know about. So answering this question, the only correct answer is â100%â or â0%â. and being impossible to prove that there does not exist anyone whom I donât know the bot usage, the only correct answer to your question is actually â0%â.
May I point you that your question is completely stupid ? You are trying to force people to say they have no idea of what bots are.
I have a question for you : on a scale from -10 to -9, how good is your knowledge of pvp ?
That is, more or less, why I did not bother with responding. The answer is meaningless, the question possibly manipulative and it is just one more proof of how linear and boxed-up his way of thinking is.
It leads that your question is stupid. It leads to you having no clue about what is the discussion topic, and making false assumption.
It leads to you wasting time here. MY time. The thread was starting good and then you made several /facepalm posts. I tried to skip them but you were still present at the end claiming everybody besides you does not have any knowledge of pvp and balance in the game. To the point you are no more ridiculous, you become an annoying off-topic thread infestation.
I teach you something : when people discuss, they need to accept that the other is right before asking question or pointing details out. You donât understand the topic yet you come to say that OP is wrong ?