Actually if you guide drone and don’t let they auto agro it’s a win beacause you’re drone may split dammage it you let they auto fire.
So less lost drones in battle with this change.
Sounds good to me.
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Only if CCP adapt mechanic for some other side effect.
As i have already said: i m not against this change to make people active.
I just said you have a shitons of side effect not solve by CCP, beacause CCP haven’t see this.
But plenty of people only operate drones actively, so they have all the data they could need for balance purposes.
I´m thinking that If drones will be no longer an AFK weapon, it should be fair to remove them from rat´s aggro, right?
Drones won´t be better now than a cruise missile launcher, imagine the rats trying to shoot at your launchers…
Rats shooting drones occasionally made sense for trying to keep the ratter engaged with the activity, not now I think.
If rats keep shoting at drones, droneboats now will require MORE effort than a gunboat, while being worse in raw dps…
In fact it’s a game design problem from CCP :
-They think to a KPI they want to change
-They forget all other KPI link to that.
It’s why very often WH are hit by CCP change in side effect. They have data but they often forget thing who are outside they main KPI. It’(s why it’s important to don’t pollute post with grrrrrr carebear and ask CCP to reconsider the change with in mind some other KPI.
hi there
Drone bot play actively have some other bonus gun bot don’t have.
let’s compare raven and dominix : Centry are more effective than cruise missile on frigate in long range and by a lot.
It’s two kind of gameplay different.
Making drones passive aggressive then huh ?
YOu give me an idea :
Making drone agressive against NPC in 2 case : NPC damp you (so you don’t have range to lock him…), or you try to target the npc(so it unerf my exemple with the BS when frigate suddenly spawn in some site). In reality it solve 90% of side effect i could see…
Last thing to solve is for mining, i need to check tonight something about range of lock someone said in a post (here or reddit i forget).
@Ramona_McCandless @Solstice_Projekt Do you think add this 2 things will permit to “afk farm”
Thank you for your honest question.
No, it will not, because CCP wants to remove afk farming.
This change isn’t about bots, it’s about players who farm afk.
Like Orcas sitting in COSMOS sites afk, farming NPCs endlessly.
So you agree could ask CCP to see if they could just add this 2 exeption on they’re new rule to avoid side effect of the nerf and only change game for afk people ?
No, I don’t think so, because it adds/keeps automation.
You want CCP to keep some form of automation …
… and CCP clearly does not want automation of this kind.
Your reasons do not change the fact that it’s automation.
CCP does not like drones working automatically, without your input, at least in regards to NPCs.
I don’t know what side-effects you are talking about.
I probably missed them. Please point me at them.
Or maybe it’s my fault, because i wrote “it’s about players who farm afk” …
… which isn’t quite as accurate as “CCP does not want automation”.
I’m hungry.
Time for lunch! 
It’s not automation.
Drone start targeting, when you start targeting => Not an automation at all, it permit to you’re drone to engage as fast as now a target … and it’s one of the interest of drone boat… it’s an hard nerf for active player to remove that.
For damp => some part of space will be unplayable for “close range”/mid range ship in some part of space. (And maybe thing you haven’t understand beacause i miss explain => auto agro only on the ship who damp)
It don’t permit to make “AFK farm”.
So you just proof to us you don’t search solution, you are juste here beacause “grrrrrr farmer”.
@CCP_Paradox Can you confirm that those changes will apply to abyss as well?
In my opinion (of a veteran high-level abyss runner), current sensor damping spawns are not compatible with such change.
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Well yes, of course, because there is no problem requiring a solution.
I mean, sure, there is a problem for you … but that’s really just you.
Maybe it’s a few others like you, but it’s not a problem for everyone.
So it’s really only just your problem.
Why would I care about coming up to a solution of something that’s not a problem?
Anyhow … Food’s ready!
Enjoy your delusions of grandeur, mate …
… they’re going to be your downfall. 
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So you’re only goal is to spam to poullte feedback .
Roger i note that and i will act in consequence on each of you’re post on this topic.
Fact said, and people said : you will have a lot of side effect. CCP could you please check they BEFORE making any kind of nerf.
I do not understand this move.
First of all, this will not fix bots. I’m pretty sure bots know how to press f automatically given that there are bots running missions automatically.
Also, this is a very bad fix for isk inflation. Super carrier are not affected while afk gila/Ishtar are hugely impacted. In other words, it will be much harder for new comers to earn ISK while the supers are still “printing money”.
Not enough player engagement is a weird objective since CCP cares more about economy, number of players, and amount of payment.
I do not see whether afk ratting as a great harm to any of those ultimate objectives.
ESS change is already promoting pvp and restricts supers.
Please correct me.
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Oh my god, people need to actively play the game. It’s a disaster! 
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You have some side effect on active player to.
Speed of drone targeting, some site with damp etc…