Upcoming Changes to Drone Aggression

I am very happy you are not a dev xD that is a terrible idea.

Of course it’s a terrible idea what i describe with the new sub …

But in fact it s a classic i have already see in some other MMO … they have start to nerf every income source from everywhere … and 6 month after release a new sub who revert all .

In fact the difference is CCP nerf and nerf and nerf … other mmo who i think have make all nerf in same time.

P.S: I don’t think you could play to some of this MMO, beacause they have collapse . Maybe not all later i will make research to see if one is steal alive.

@CCP_Paradox

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not against the change overall. If anything, technical barrier to making a bot for this game is too low. All that worries me is precisely damping spawns.

I am shuddering at the thought of blinding leshaks running away on a speed cloud from your damped 10mn gila/ishtar.

If drones would aggressively react to NPC electronic attacks on the player, this change would spawn no issues. All electronics, not just sensor dampener, as this would make abyss easier.

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Well. Whatever CCP is doing as long as it benefits the Game. It will be fine… Nurfing the drone for PVE has it’s pros and cons for players.

There’s also this approach for active gameplay.

Problem of “react to ECM” in some part of space near all NPC use ECM… so you permit to this part of space to continue to AFK farm.

Nearly “near all”. Triggers for a wave spawns do not use electronics afaik…
Even if there are no triggers, you need to clear out a wave fully. Killing only ECMing stuff would bork a system, not to say that it will be a dead giveaway,

As much as I hate targeting-related electronics as a solo PVP player, this would nerf dampeners severely. Being able to send drones without a target lock on NPCs only?.. Counterintuitive, but this works as well.

In fact in PVP if you are attack you’re drone will auto agro. (try it ;p)

The idea is to make you could give 1 target to you’re drone, and you’re drone make they 're own life to fire on it… you don’t necesseraly need to target it yourself. It replace the “auto agro” thing.

To avoid abuse in pvp we could add the rule: you need to be lock/agress by you’re target.

Not only dampeners, but jamming as well.

I don’t think it’s bad though.

Offering another counterplay to debuffs, besides debuff resistance modules, is pretty good balance to avoid perma damps and perma jams, having to rely on RNG to have any chance of a counter.

Drone boats will become the way to go for fights against heavy ECM reliant enemies.

And there’s counterplay to that, with smartbombs, or simply treating drones as priority targets, taking away the enemy DPS to then focus on taking them on as they run out of “ammo”.

EDIT: btw, it’s the main reason I asked for confirmation with @Mike_Azariah if this suggestion is overpowered, or if it actually provides a nice change for everyone concerned.

CCP has a habit of over buffing everything in the last 15 years they needed to bring it all back to a good spot, they have been doing a good job.

Better to rather nerf the npc damps then, so gun ships and missile ships are viable in abyss as well especially if you can only target to 10kms.

How much better is the gila to lets say the next best ship for abyss?

This is stupid.

Three years of running missions…I target a ship, launch drone, fire at ship and the drones automatically engage my target, then they auto engage targets throughout the battle based on their priority, which I count on. Now you’re saying I have to manually make them each engage every damn target??

You suck to no end. Screw you…I mean it. Really…go F*ck yourselves.

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Yup, their priority, and not your priority, meaning you didn’t ever have one in the first place.

You just said it yourself, you warp to a mission site, press one button and let your drones do the rest for you.

The agents might as well pay LP to your drones rather than you.

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What will be with “guard” command for drones?

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Yeah the ore change just before this took a big part of my fun out of the game, sure CCP does not like me being self sufficient but i am just one guy i can’t flood the market with cheap stuff but i enjoy being able to mine my ore, refine it and then build something with that, guess it is time to look for another game.

Not cause this one change alone, but the constant nerfs they implemented to the game over the last couple of months, if you do not have fun and look forward to logging on it is a waste of money to pay for the sub.

So I did an L3 Security mission the other day

Several of the enemy ships suppressed my targeting and so I lost all locks. The only thing that killed those ships off was my Drones responding to aggression.

I tried range and at over 100km away I still had the suppression icon on me from the Corelum Chief Guards and Safeguards.

Always in Rookie Help when someone has asked what to do when they lose their targets like this we have told them to rely on Drones.

So how is this supposed to work now if our Drones do nothing vs targets that are actively shooting at us that we can’t lock / give the F command on?

Like AFK cloakcamping?

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Pretty sure her statement is related to passively farming wealth …
… because that’s what this whole thread is kind of about …
… and afk cloaky camping isn’t passively farming wealth, unless you count salt.

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All you can do while AFK cloaked is sit idle in space doing nothing. If you want to gather intel or attack a target or whatever then you have to come back from AFK and actively play the game. This is not at all comparable to warping into a PvE site, deploying drones, and going AFK until you’ve killed everything.

Ask the people who fly ships that don’t have drones and have to deal with these things. In the case of damps you can move closer to the target until you are in range to lock and fire.

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it is a chain effect once this drone changes goes live, why? there will be less …alot less peoples multibox farming and in turn less target for hunter and so on. i understand changes need to be done but weight between good and bad has to be on the good side more than the bad.