disappointed that the orange ones do not taste . . . orange
Yeah that was a bit of an edge case.
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You are probably already using your credit card to sub for those chars anyways, right?
Isn’t it much better to buy and sell PLEX with the money you would be using to sub the other chars, rather than try to grind your isk in game for whichever reason, if all you can muster is 10M/tick on each additional char?
Stay away from brown crayons.
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Guys could you just stop spamming this feed? They obviously don’t care about the players’ feedback.
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Because they want to reduce ISK gain by regular players.
Obviously, botters buy plex out of market, and so gutting your income will make you to use your creditcard more as you will not be able to afford what you normally would.
Our regular players can’t press F!!?
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You are doing only mining and exploring, why does it upset you so much drones were auto? You yourself do the laziest afk activity in the game - mining. I bet you would be the first one creating new QQ posts if they would change mining that you would have to reactivate lasers every cycle. 
Ok, so I’m trying to understand exacty what that kid just typed.
So, immediately off the bat, we’re in a situation we’re talking about this mythical “target manipulating ewar pvp” (TMEP) fleet. I have no idea what this looks like, especially given that most Drone-based fleets use a drone bunny with 1 ewar module to just focus the drones on target after target.
Second, “if drones aren’t automatically engaging rats, they will target an aggressing player”. What does this mean? So is this TMEP fleet trying to rat while getting attacked by players? Is the goal of the TMEP fleet to kill NPCs while at the same time ignoring the players?
Third, he says “thus, systems that take advantage of drone auto-aggression will do less in a pvp situation”. But CCP has ALREADY SAID that drone auto-aggression in PvP will be unchanged. So how will they “do less”, whatever that means?
Fourth, he goes “ergo, drones will attack the ewar pilot much earlier than they would have”. What? Isn’t the ewar pilot part of the TMEP that’s currently trying to rat while getting attacked by other players? Why would the drones turn on the ewar pilot that’s currently controlling them? Where does this come from?
No, no it would not be. If I were to sell the PLEX value of the account sub for 4 accounts a month, it’d be 500 PLEX per account, so 2000 PLEX. PLEX is currently worth 2.7m per, so 2000 of them is worth 5.4b
1 account making 10m/tick makes 5.4b in 180 hours, which is 7.5 days. 4 accounts would do it in 45 hours. And that’s without considering the opportunity costs of having 4 omega accounts training, receiving daily and event rewards, and the utility provided by having 4 extra accounts to use for things like scouting and cynos.
Simply put, you’re wrong.
Because you’re bad at pvp.
You’re not even attempting to understand the scenario I put forth, so I’m not going to attempt to explain it further. Keep trying, I’ll let you know when you figure it out. Also, if you’re speaking to me, you should say so. If you’re speaking to a different audience, kindly go talk to them.
I also do lvl4 missions and ratting in two other chars, tyvm. 
If CCP changed mining lasers to that, I would certainly complain, because the change would be similar to making you have to press F to make your drones fire each volley, or F1 for guns and missiles fire each charge, which is stupid.
As long as you have an active target, you can give a single command, and your drones will go after that single target.
The change simply changes that now you can’t go after multiple targets with a single command.
Does the idea of mining drones going to mine new asteroids when the ones they are currently mining is depleted sound fair to you?
Sure sounds neat for going AFK for hours and returning to a full Orca, but devs were smart enough to make it so that isn’t the case.
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Ridiculous. What the ■■■■ is that? Why don’t you EVER ASK the players for what they want? You just shove ■■■■ like that down our throats. First the ESS, then the ore rebalance, now this!? I really wonder if I’ll resub in a month or not, living in 0.0 has become unprofitable with anoms giving out so little. Have you checked how much a T1 battleship costs now?! How the ■■■■ are we supposed to afford that?!
CCP don’t wnt you to fly BS. that all.
They want yout o fly frigate or use you’re CB.
@Mike_Azariah
Jonn Duune tells me you’re reasonable, so I want to hear what you actually think about this proposed change, rather than reacting to a response you made to someone that seemed to completely miss their point.
Personally, this change doesn’t effect me much, as I rarely use drones to begin with. I think its a terrible change because it doesn’t address the issue CCP is trying to resolve and the effects of this change are wider reaching than the target CCP is aiming it at.
We are too large a group to ever agree on anything, which makes feedback we give as a whole community pretty useless, and means that no matter what change CCP make, some will like it, some will hate it and many won’t really care.
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Fair enough. I’m wrong on this one.
Guess normal average players would never want to spend 6h per day on average ratting on a single char with 10M/tick to fund their activities.
But that wasn’t you original point, was it?
Using those same 45h hours, the player with a single account would be able to make the same 5.4B isk as you do.
The difference here is that they are paying for a single sub, while you are paying for five.
If you do it because of the convenience of scount, cyno, and etc, then that’s fine, but if it’s just for funding your PvP, then getting into a better isk/tick activity and using your RL money to buy and sell PLEX would net you 10B+, for the same amount of time spent in game with a single account.
Much better and efficient than handling multiple accounts, is it not?
So, you bot to keep them going 24/h a day then?
Noted.
Because 180 hours is 6 hours a day.
That’s why you use 4 accounts.
Have you taken a look at the Player Feature Ideas thread?
It’s mostly because what players want is completely unreal.
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Doesn’t matter. The devs don’t read these forum.
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