I think that’s up to CCP to decide, if and when it comes to that. CCP is ending support for Catalina here. Not the whole macOS. I think everybody should draw their conclusions from that.
I’m happy for you and happy CCP continues to support your hardware.
By the way I wasn’t saying “Windows is better for gaming” but something (I don’t know what) happened in 2021 that made many Mac users cry. I mostly know this in my tf2 playgroup since that was when they realized the game would be unplayable on Apple, but even people who didn’t play that specific game sort of gave up.
It’s all good. I have one gamer friend, and he’s always played on Windows (didn’t even try a Mac until he was 39, and he didn’t like it). I don’t think of Macs as gaming computers either, although they certainly can handle most games specs-wise. Most gamers seem to prefer Windows, and that’s fine. Mac isn’t for everyone.
I have no idea what it was in 2021 that made ‘‘Mac users cry’’. I was in TEST back then happily killing Goons (a war we eventually lost) on the same Mac I am using right now and I don’t remember a single issue with my computer. EVE certainly didn’t become unplayable on Apple devices. Maybe it was some old OS that lost support, but that happens regularly and is to be expected.
@CCP_Swift just wanted to say thanks to you guys for having made a native Mac client. We, Mac users, are aware it’s not usual from a gaming company, and although we’re not the majority – we’re here, we’ve been here since the first years of EVE, and we highly appreciate that we can play EVE on our machines on a client designed for it.
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I thought it was 2021, but maybe I’m wrong. Around the time apple could no longer run tf2, a decent chunk of games becomes unplayable. I tohguht that was 2021?
What is ‘TF2’ ?
Team Fortress 2
A PHd in computer science for a traditional gaming PC? Hmm… I wonder if I can use that argument to claim I have a doctorate in something… That may be fun!
I don’t like the idea of a run-to-fail computer. If my PC breaks or needs an upgrade, I can rip out and replace anything I want without having to scrap the whole thing for a new one. If I want to improve the processor speed, I simply replace the CPU. If I want better cooling, I can just rip out the fan that’s being too noisy or ineffective. If I want to improve graphics, I simply replace the GPU. Everything on a PC is Plug-&-Play. Sure, it’s an investment at the beginning, but then it’s simply a matter of buying one component whenever something becomes obsolete or fails. The end result is something that is both customizable and better than any Apple device.
Dust 514 stopped because Sony wasn’t going to pay for it to be ported onto the newplaystation.
Well they did add options to help with the large percentage of males that are red/green colourblind.
Having built a number of PCs since the 80286 era, the way it usually played out was that the whole setup needed to replaced after a few years. Researching, ordering, receiving, assembling, testing, replacing components and peripherals isn’t a zero cost process, unless your time is worthless. These days I just put a current gen iMac on my desk, have a performant, silent, cool Unix machine with a sane OS that can play the majority of MMOs on the market and works with my phone, laptop and earbuds and I can trivially trade it in after a few years for a new one. Not being able to stick a dedicated Nvidia in it is an acceptable tradeoff.
That has never been linked to eye color though.
That’s not the way it is now. Computers were evolving then. Motherboards and processors were usually sold as a combo because of how fast everything changed. Now things are smoother. I can upgrade my motherboard and usually keep the processor and the other way around. I’m still using the motherboard I was using one processor ago. The same motherboard I was using two video cards ago. My RAM is the same as when I bought the motherboard- I merely added to it for a total of 48 gigs.
Upgrading just one thing is a lot easier today.
You’re talking about the worth of someone’s time on a forum dedicated to a video game.
Not only that, but with the amount of time people put into the complexities of Eve Online with spreadsheets of market data and ISK per hour of doing an Abyssal site vs. a level 4 with specific salvage skills, etc… Upgrading my computer is far less complex. I know what my computer can do and I know what components I need to upgrade in order to increase that performance.
I would have to spend probably $2,600 for a new computer in order to get the graphics update that I’m going to get with a $400 Radeon GPU. To me, that’s worth it. Sure, I could play Eve Online on a much simpler computer with 1k monitors instead of 4k monitors, but I made the choice to take advantage of all of Eve Online’s beautiful ship textures and nebulae. You can’t see that on 1k monitors. The cheapest way to get there is to build and upgrade your PC instead of buying a new one at full price. My current GPU gets it done, but it struggles with the new monitors.
Yes, sure, I’d much rather play Eve than think about thermal paste, hardware bottlenecks or whether my CPU is affected by some newly discovered manufacturing problem. If you like to deal with hardware then you can build and continuously upgrade a PC that’s better than a Mac on some axis. A quick mental inventory of all the mobile phones, tablets, personal, school and work laptops, Macs and consoles in this household suggests that there’s also a convenience axis where PCs aren’t doing so good these days.
I don’t spend my time thinking about thermal paste. It’s just a tool. I don’t give it anymore thought than I do a screwdriver I use at work. It goes back into the toolbox to be forgotten until its needed again.
Hardware bottlenecks is the equivalent to calculating in Eve online the difference in DPS from this green module vs that green module down to the hundredth or thousandth place… Or thae fact that you only lose 30 EHP if you use this green shield mod and a T2 of that shield mod which saves you 5 million ISK…
In other words, bottlenecks aren’t really noticeable except on paper unless your computer is really outdated. A current GPU paired with a current processor on a current motherboard that gives you 4 FPS less than if you’d picked that GPU instead is not really something that most people consider.
It’s like using a water cooler instead of an air cooler because it has a slightly higher ramp up time. You don’t have to get that in-depth with PC building. It’s not going to be noticeable unless you’re looking at a graph.
PC building can be a lot easier if you just keep it simple.
That was never an argument in regards to CCP developing EVE. The fact that you continue to drone on and on about this and use that bit from my post to push your viewpoint is strange at best, infantile more likely.
Also — I’m not gonna read your posts, so don’t bother with some 1000-word reply overthrowing arguments I never made.