the Change would be good if the Drones wouldn’t stand still betwenn the Targets, so like it is the Drones will be destroyed by the npc. They need flight time to get to the next locked target other wapeons not, they could be desrtroyed, other weapons not. I took Money to Skill up Drones become Omega User to have a good Game expirience. and feel frauded now. You take the Money let me use the Skillpoints i bought and then changed the rules and my Weapons are less playable.
That means for me as Human fakor Player. The Botters change their Bots and real Players loose.
So is real playing Eve lees attractive, and Botting becomes more attractive.
It would be nice if the Drones would be “aktive” inactive by flying around and “dodge” before they get the next Command. Humans are slower than Bots and the timei need to to press F while i cklick to lock the next targets ist the Time my weapons will be damaged. I yes, i first tried out.
I’ve come back to this game after about a year (and boy, what a change to come back to). My salvage drones don’t auto-salvage anymore, is this something which has happened over the last 12 months or is this off the back of this patch?
my drones did it yesterday without problems. are you sure about? they do not auto salvaging other wracks if you have some wrack as target. without targets they salvaging all available wracks once told so and stops if no wracks are available. if new wracks are coming after drones has completed salvaging all wrecks you must command the drones again.
I have run 30+ abyss filaments yesterday with a drone ship.
Lost 0 drones due to them standing still in place. Only drones lost were to crazy tracking Tesseras.
If you are losing drones to rats now, then you probably would be losing them before the change as well for not paying attention.
Simply don’t let your drones sit still for minutes without assigning them a new target to shoot. 
Aha - user error strikes again. I was targeting individual wrecks and expecting them to carry on. Thanks for the help.
My salvage drones did not auto salvage, but as i read this thread, maybe i am missing some command… how do you activate auto salvaging fr drones? i have to single target any wreck and give each drone (or all of them) the salvage command for each wreck individually…but that may be my bad.
Literally three posts above.
Use radial menu on launched drone group, or just press F without any target
oh, well, seems simply enough, thanks guys
Also note autosalvage wont work if you split your drones up to do seperate wrecks. Its all (without any wrecks targetted) or manual if you want 5 seperate wrecks done at the same time.
No i payed Attention. I logged new targets and had about 20 or 30 Frigattes at the opposite side. I press F the whole time. Like this in two seconds: fffffffffffffffff. The Drones were iddle for a few seconds and the Mercenarys damaged them in this times. Sometimes i lost a Drone thats normal, but ia’m a slow Human, not a Bot, and need some time look for the ship, the Drones, lock new targets and so on. I lost not so much Drones to Rats like i do since Yesterday.
If the Gameplay with Drones would be like this 3 Months ago i wouldn’t take real world Money to buy pakets with Skillpoints and invested them in Drone Skills. So i feel Frauded and want my Skillpoints back.
Someone said me It wouldnt be a problem: “in max 2 weeks you can buy a bot outside wich will solve the Problem. (sic!)”
I disagree botting IS the problem. So this change will only affekt normal Players and Botters will not complain.
Which drones were you using? Heavies?
If that’s the case, the you should keep in mind that frigates can apply damage quite well to them, so it’s advised to use medium, or even light drones instead.
Otherwise, if you are already using light drones, it might be an issue with hyper aggro that I often see mentioned, but never experienced it myself.
It seems there’s a few offered fixes to that issue:
- log out of char and log back in;
- dock at a station and leave your ship, then enter again;
It’s also good to keep in mind that mantaining rat aggro is much easier when using some ECM modules on them, like target painters and stuff, or remote assistance mods on your drones.
That way their AI will consider your ship a bigger threat than your drones, and won’t change targets as often, speaking from experience.
Another option is to recall drones when you see NPCs yellow box you, and wait until yout ship gets the aggro back, before deploying drones again, in case you aren’t able to fit such modules on your ship.
Over the years, many of us have tried to have missions and sites redone or enhanced by CCP to make them varied,more complex, and essentially more challenging. While we always recieved some pushback from the PvP only crowd, there was always a vocal core of people who adamantly argued against ANY change in either sites or missions, claiming that “no one” wanted CCP to improve their game in that direction. It is quite apparent now that many of those people were either the botting, multiboxing, or the afk kind, whose livelihood could be threatened if more frequent and directed commands were needed to successfully complete a goal.
Meeting the needs of such a varied player base is next to impossible for CCP. Something or someone must be left behind.
ok, so… @CCP_Dopamine—about that ‘visceral’ SP claiming thing from the daily login rewards…
What?
Literally did not notice any change. Certainly nothing ‘relating to deep inward feelings rather than to the intellect.’
Last time I logged in, I felt a deep burning and warming sensation in my belly.
Then I realized it was the whiskey I had used to make the game palatable.
Yesterday im was almost killed by DEAD GUY DRONES… YES dead guy drones…
They didnt move but continue to shoot. FAIL CCP = Cannot Code Propherly
Im had to kill them to survive… REAL GOOD JOB.,…
Btw what is a REASON FOR AGRESIVE BEHAVIOR TO EVEN EXIST???
IN PVP YOU DONT WANT YOUR DRONES JUST TO RUN AFTER 1 TH GUY
CCP again and reapeatedly fail to actuali know eve… Eve is 90% Groop pvp game… 1v1 are realy rare… so AGRESIVE DRONES IN PVP is totali ussles cause you have to reasign your drones manualy to the right target anyway… Your drones rushing to the other side to 1 guy who agressed is STUPID.
SO WHAT THE HELL IS THE POINT OF AGRESIVE BEHAVIOR ANYWAY???
Nother thing is there is no REASON NOT TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO ASIST DRONES TO BUNNY TO SEND THEM…
Do you want to hire me?? Cause im can FIX YOUR FUKING SYSTEM IN 20s
How ?? ADD 5 S delay to drones retargeting… BOOOM no more afk raters cause you loose those drones if they dont move… ALL OTHER STUFF SAVED…
But nooooooooooo we rather f up half of the game…
Has it been discussed already? What is the difference between “passive” drones and “aggressive” drones after this update?
Same behavior as before, but works in PvP only.
Hey Dopamine!
Would just like to add a clarification to this- There was an actual change to how ice belts are spawned, mechanically in the game. Prior to the patch, there was an ice belt in a system I’ve been mining that reliably spawned 4 hours after it was completely cleared. Post-patch it did not respawn after 4 hours.
With the changes from the recent ore patches and subsequent confusion around the ice belts, I’m not sure that the 4 hour respawn was intended but that was indeed how it worked for a long time (~5 weeks) prior to this patch.
@CCP_Dopamine Is the removal of the Description tab in the Char Info intentional? If so: Does CCP really have nothing better to do?