The sarcasm is strong in this one.
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Itās neither.
What they do is make changes based on feedback and player desire - in this case, there was a significant desire to buff marauders and get them back into space as the premiere subcap class. They did that. At the same time, they knew going in that these were likely going to be a bit overpowered, but instead of putting something in that wouldnāt make the ships that viable for fear of them being overpowered, they accepted theyād be overpowered for a while knowing they could reduce things later on. This is what iteration is - itās what players have asked for repeatedly over the years.
In the end, this change isnāt suddenly going to stop people from flying marauders and nobody who has trained or skilled into one in the two months since the last update is suddenly flying a useless ship.
Not something you can really drop at the feet of that change, in all fairness.
I disagree with everything you said.
The stations have more definition. The bubbles look more defined and I like them.
The buffs were ok, and you are right, when the buffs for the ship came out I was a bit skeptical about if they were needed. They did feel a bit over the top.
The nerf that came basically kneecapped the ship class entirely.
Marauders should no longer be thought of as āMini-dreadsā They no longer have that capability.
Instead marauders are now ships that excel in dealing damage out past 70km.
The repair and damage application bonuses are now just a crutch that exists because the marauder has to immobilize itself to deal decent damage at that that range.
If you want a cheaper version of the ship for close range combat look no further than the Maelstrom and Hyperion Battleships.
Lets do the same for dreads then while we are at it then.
The first patchnotes will read:
- Siege Module will now grant Immunity to capacitor warfare while active
When pilot buy their skill injectors and plex their accounts to buy dreads we can then nerf it with:
- Dreads can only used high angle guns. Regular capital weapons are being redefined as supercapital sized weapons and as such will now only fit on titans.
Sorry in advance to all Dread pilots in advance if I just gave a CCP an idea they actually use here.
If I understand correctly Bastion mode Disallowed EWAR but it disallowed remote reps and assistance to compensate.
IF YOU REMOVE THE MAIN UPSIDE WHAT IS LEFT!
Damage and range increase in exchange for all of your mobility and a persistent weapons timer.
(You cannot play station games if you require bastion mode to stay alive)
Repair bonus and immunity Minor resistance to EWAR in exchange for complete nullification of Remote assistance and Remote repairs. <------------ this is the imballance
You removed the immunity but kept the downside.
for technical reasons (mostly because battleship stats suck when dealing with all EWAR or rather the consequences of EWAR) a 50% reduction in effects only gives about a ~10% resistance in general. I wish I had a graph here but this can also be inverted. A 90% reduction in EWAR only translates to ~50% resistance to ewar. Thats ECM immunity was the only stat that made sense there.
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Hmmm no idea who Cobra Commander is and really donāt care.
I suppose Brisc insulting and belittling other players is acceptable because he has, what exactly, oh right he has the blok vote. At his worst Mittens doesnāt come close to this guys arrogance.
Arrogance and an over inflated ego, presuming to know what the average player likes and dislikes. Just like him, the few players he may have contact with are by no means represenative of the Eve player base.
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Okay, time for me to be that guy.
After a hundred or so jumps in the southwest and northeast of the map, and hanging out with a friend who loves to go mining for 4 hours (while gossiping our heads off) I must admit I like the upgraded visuals. Itās a lot better than what was first proposed on the test server, better balanced, and I even have the impression the glare is reduced. Itās also possible that my eyesight has dropped since test server introduction and final release. Any way, my thanks to the devs and artists for having taken the test server feedback into account !
As with all other stuff related to cloaking Iām very interested in the new covert cyno deployable. The bpo is already in ME research, tyvm, and the planets are doing their thing too.
However, dear devs, would you consider making the fleet jump option on the blops a grantable role in the fleet that is by default OFF ? Yes, spies have already fleet jumped blops fleets into a trap, and that is a bit too easy of a gameplay without any counterplay.
But Iāll also be this guy.
The marauder changes, well, itās not good to get kids acquainted with lots of candy and then try to tell them itās not good to eat candy. I understand the change was necessary for some overpowered pvp aspect, but the effect on pve - the main use of these ships - is equally important. Turret fitted marauders already have very poor tracking, especially the paladin that has only 4 mids and does require those mids to mitigate some of the cap penalty introduced via your previous buff to bastion mode, so tracking aids are a no go. Neuting marauders was already a viable attack mode, now you added the full ewar spectrum to it, because you wanted to fix one singular problem with one marauder hull ? Baaaad.
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very off topic here, but this @Brisc_Rubal bashing that flares up every time the man posts and communicates with the community is getting slightly annoying. As a player like the rest of us he is entitled to his opinions. As a CSM representative he will take any concerns about the game you may have to CCP, regardless of his own opinions unless someone has proof of the opposite. Thatās what a true CSM rep does, and that is what he stands for.
Thank you for your understanding.
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Very nicely said and also 100% correct.
We donāt have a lot of CSM interacting with us here in the forums, the last thing we should be doing is chasing away the last few who are still brave enough to post here.
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NO ONE asked for it. Take is back and keep it!
The next time you want to give us something, make sure itās something we actually want!
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No sarcasm, I really like the graphics update so far.
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Just wanted to add here that my corp is loving the graphics so far. And the changes to the Vargur will definitely make ESS fights more fun.
But please maybe slow down the buffs to all my favorite cloaky ships! I canāt decide what to fly!!
PS, I know itās not part of this update, but the Minmatar event has been amazing!
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OH yeah, canāt edit posts, canāt respond to fellow posters, canāt debate thanks to the āchilloutā timerā¦ nice way of gagging the players, CCP, Bravo!
^^^THAT^^^
Take your update and shove it where the sun donāt shine.
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Iām okay with the graphics update, reset brightness and everything is decently lit, havenāt came across much except this:
These spherical effects became too ugly too watch, like cheap shadow occlusion thatās be overlooked as a result when the update is deployed. I can kind of understand why some ppl also feel the bubbles visuals are downgraded, now theyāve only so far seen the bubbles from afar, not sure how it would be with lots of geometries inside. or whether it only affects LCOsā¦but that ought to be something Iād like to see fixedā¦
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Then give us REAL playersā representatives, not morons on an ego trip.
The first thing we should be doing is chasing fake-arse buffoons who pretend to be CSM while getting and giving kickbacks to his buddies.
Brisc has no business being CSM. Heās corrupted by Aiko and her gang of salt-chasing lowlives.
Give us people worthy of being our representatives, like Mike for example. Now that guy is a real CSM and itās no wonder why heās so much respected by players, because he actually cares about the game and its players.
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I canāt discuss taste , if it works for you and you are happy with them, iām glad for you .
Well done CCP, you just made Eve suck for meā¦ Spent tons of isk and training time to fly the marauders, was very excited when I finished trainingā¦ Spend so many hours testing various fits in the simulator as well on SiSi, only for you to nerf the class to hellā¦ Just making it unplayableā¦ If you need proof of that just have a look at the marketā¦ Prices already have started droppingā¦
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Thatās why youāre allowed to vote, to pick the people who you want to be representing you.
Mike is a good one. I voted for both him and Brisc, among others.
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First off thereās no need for all the hostility, especially since youāre directing it towards me. Secondly, if you donāt like him, then just ignore him. It seems youāre hell-bent on going out of your way just to bash on him.
Anyway, if you have any proof of kickbacks then that should definitely be reported.
My launcher downloaded a patch today but there are no patch notes for it.