Version 19.08 - General Feedback

In the old skill window, when you moused over the skill it would show how many SP you trained and how much SP for level5. So say I bought the skill book for Industry, and you apply it, it will say 0/256000 when you mouse over the skill in the skill window. This is helpful for determining how many injectors you want to buy to skill up quickly.

In the new skill window that info does not show up when you mouse over a skill. I tried getting the info on skill points from other windows, without success.

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Huge opportunity missed. Cannot import skills to a skill plan from the fitting windowā€¦ I have to copy them out to a spreadsheet from clipboard and then load them one by one into a plan. Barf.

How did you miss this golden opportunity CCP? Dragging from fitting window is THE use case for these skill plans. Also no support for Corp skill plans?

Other issues discovered playing with this tonight:

  • Making links to skill plans is nice, but they get invalidated as soon as the originator of the plan deletes the plan, so if you want corp plans, someone has to keep them saved on their character.
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As many have stated not having the skill list in each category displaying the training time to next level if injected and under lvl 5 is a major oversight. If I was looking at applying skill points or wanting to train a fast skill I had that information provided to me right there. No guessing or right clicking to find all of this. This is basically the same thing in a different format I cannot see why this information was removed when it could have easily been left there.
And forcing the full avatar and allowing us to collapse the useful part of the character sheet is also backwards and not very intuitive. The avatar is the only part of that window I do not need to see. I created the avatar so I know what it looks like.
One thing I learned in business, change for the sake of change is never a good idea. Changes need to make sense and progress the idea. This is a step backwards.

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Thank you! I donā€™t understand why more people arenā€™t saying this.

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btw, this is what the fustercluck looks like at minimum res:

How CCP can think this is presentable as a finished and acceptable work is professional malpractice.

Dev: Fail
QC: Fail
Management: Fail

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fuc*g holy sh!tā€¦

how old your interface designers - 15, 12? looks like 10 years old - the word ā€˜ergonomicā€™ is nothing to them, bells & whistles - their god

bring back to us an old character window and skill interface - a sharp and brilliant tools, get us an option in game settings to switch between an old good one and a new batshit insane

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Well, then why does it say it only affects the Character Creator? Dohā€¦ you really need to work on your ill-placed mordancy.

Iā€™ll share a big secret to you, CCP: there are many people in this world, who play EVE on laptops with 17" or even 15" screens. And here ur new UI looks like a piece of crappy design and a lack of professional skills.

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Never felt the need too complain on the forums. Been playing since Jan. The old skills que sure needed a update. I was always loading the mobile app and managing my skills there as it did just feel easier, so I can understand why you may think cloaning the mobile App would be a good idea, except that works because the mode of use is a finger, not a mouse; so it doesnā€™t work.

The window is massive, and I canā€™t Dock it in another window out the way, this is a regression.

I canā€™t see how long a skill takes too train unless add it, also im unable too see how long it takes and a time of completion should be be standard, I use evenova on my phone too do this again as the eve ui doesnā€™t do any of this.

Just bought a 50mill skill totally by accident clicking it too see how long it would take too train. This is a massive game breaking bug that needs patching immediately that should never of made it too live. Imagine if Iā€™d clicked a titan skill, this needs fixing ASAP or you will find the help channels flooding with new players spent all there starter isk just looking around.

Last of all Iā€™m sorry CCP but I canā€™t stand it, this is a pc game, not a console port and it feels like you are doing it the opposite way turning the game into a console game, the new changes donā€™t even interact correctly with the old UI. If I have the dscan box open in the background and I hover over any black space in the skills window cosmic signature information pops up in front of the skills window rendering all clicks useless on the skills windows unless I close it and reopen it creating the worst lag ever like a session change.

There is a picture in here of a mock up skills que, that looks amazing, hire him please and keep the skittles away from who ever is designing it currently. Please change it back

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Speaking of which: How does this window even hold up in EVE Anywhere which people potentially play on much smaller screens like phones and tablets? :thinking:

That does not solve the issue. People would then use bots to setup huge words or letters with hundreds of depots, as they have done repeatedly in Jita and other busy places.

A minor point of criticism, the ā€œprogression colorā€ on the skill categories:
As a data point itā€™s irrelevant for most categories, and as a visual itā€™s distracting hence dysfunctional.

pls remove this very stupid huge new ui.
we need THAT https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/354294688552976384/887966985479147520/6ts7cvae6jn71.png

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Completely agree, this is why as many players should call them out on this worthless practice so there is a chance they revise their methods and improve.

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Getting this intermittently.

11:25:04 Info You are unable to train Magnetometric Sensor Compensation any further without upgrading to an Omega clone.

Except I am omega, and now have it in queue to train to V.

Also having some characters repeat the ship docking/changing ship animation every time I close the skill sheet if theyā€™re in a podā€¦

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Wakes up to see patch notes trying to polish new UI

Want checkbox to not use new UI until it is at least as functional as the old one.

If you will not remove this abomination of a user interface from the game for the betterment of the game please at least allow us to OPT OUT.

This continued disgrace to the game is a net loss for everyone involved.

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Yes, it says it only affects the character creator.

That text has been wrong for a fair time now. it affected the pane in the older character sheet, and it affected the full body preview available from peopleā€™s show info.

My point is: I said something. You assumed that I was wrong, and without checking said so.

Itā€™s like they are playing a different game where having a free floating character image is actually useful. I suppose someone realized they need some justification for selling clothing in the store.

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Since posts are being deleted here ill just leave this stolen screenshot on how to do it and save my breath.
Just this: itā€™s not that ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā–  hard, right?

CCP clown show

@Brisc_Rubal here, this does not look like turd. spot the difference?

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Holy cow, how is this pathetic UI not reverted back yet ? Or at least we have option to use the old one. This is such a failureā€¦ come on get your ā– ā– ā– ā–  in order.

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