You were complaining that because your structure was a public Freeport, it should be protected like your were special, not realizing that most structures are public freeports, but still face war decs that they defend against. If you can’t defend your structures, either face the reality that they will be destroyed or hired some help. Mike still has to content with gankers, he’s learned how to survive though.
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Only because you think somone is botting dostn mean that is true.
Iam the CEO of DSM-I and we have a few multiboxer ya , me includet but that dosnt mean that is botting.
We as a Corp, help new Player stay in the Game , since were excisting. WE help them with ships, infrastrucur, transport etc. And you and your friends gank them with 3 people, for a Pioneer etc
So ganking is fine , mining pvp not ? That makes 0! Sense. PvP you have in all parts of eve, adapt or go.
If you dont have the RL Money to Support more Accounts dont Cry. I Pay all Legit and i Play them all Legit.
"And they steel my Highsec moon” wtf , Eve is a sandbox if a belt is there everyone can come and mine it, its normal gameplay mechanic.
No one of us was Crying that the snuggles come with 20 Accs+ to Ordion , and we live in this system for over 12 Years now. We have alot of Activ players, that does not mean that all are multiboxers.
A war brings you nothing with your 3 Player ganking squad, because then your still against 20 + Ships so that make no sense.
Go and look for a other System if you dont like that people live there. And Only you think that were working together means nothing, we dont have Blue Standings to anyone were Neutral, but open to all people that come there. Even Snuggle members we invitet in fleets.
Just my 2 Cents
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As you are replying to me. I like to ask, WTF are you talking about with this long-winded crap?
Do look me up if you need DPS, point at a target and I will shoot.
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My award-winning ingame channel is: Why Was I Ganked?
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As if there needed to be a reason, LOL
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There is no need for proof.
Thats why we have the button to trigger the hamsters of CCP so they can look into this issue.
Let me make dumb example.
You hear a gun shot and a scream but didn´t saw anything.
Do you call the police or not?
On your behalf you have no proof so you NOT ALLOWED to call the cops to double check.
Sorry.. but not sorry.
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the problem, of course, is that if there is anything players can abuse, they will. There is oh so much evidence of this, all over these forums and all over the game.
Wardec, historically, was used by semi-small gangs to gank without any of the stuff that comes with it. They, like all these filthy miners, faced no risk. Ok, maybe a little risk, once in a while, if they chose the wrong target.
Those wardec groups dont even have the courage to be gankers, and take all the repurcussions that come with it.
One of the more common refrains you’ll encounter in the endless highsec ganking whine threads is that ganking isn’t fair because you can’t attack gankers proactively, and even if you could, you’ll never be able to inflict a meaningful amount of damage on them because they’re just going to be in a catalyst or coercer, anyway.
Both of these complaints are satisfied if the ganker is instead a war target, which can be engaged proactively, and generally won’t limit themselves to T1 destroyers.
What is stopping those that are ganked from jumping into the same exact ships and fits, which can be found on zkill, and being proactive?
I will pass laws making ganking more illegal than it currently is. Those gankers will get a stern warning from concord.
War Dec in High Sec has ruined High Sec. When large alliances will spend billions bringing in 150 battleships just to destroy 2 Athanors, there’s no way to defend. Moon mining has become impossible.
I beg to differ. Plenty of miners being killed while mining moons!
I’ve been war deced enough that I’ve lost count. I’ve built athanors from one side of empire space to the other.
I grew tired of rebuilding them
‘tis true. as a solo player is it hard to build an empire.
Imagine, if you will, if multiple solo players decided to not be solo players anymore! Just think, if you had, say, 150 people willing to defend a station against 150 attackers, how much fun could be had!
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My group only get war dec’ed like once a year. We are not a big group either. Sometimes we win, sometimes we don’t.
To defend a 2 billion isk structure in high sec? No. That sounds like the dumbest idea ever. Tens of billions of ISK lost for no reason at all.
Maybe if all the profit hadn’t been stripped from High Sec.
I agree, isk wise it doesnt make sense.
However, because of that isk consciousness, those groups basically get to do whatever they want. Perhaps they do actually want pvp, but things have changed too much so that there just isnt justification to jump in and fight.
The only way I really see out of any of it is if like minded people that are tired of losing their ■■■■, get together and fight back. I have no idea if it would be successful or if it would just be a waste. Some people win, most lose.
They are not showing up with 150 battleships for the sake of winning a fight, but to prevent a fight. It’s probably not worth 10s of billions to them, either.
You’re not trying to save one 2 billion isk structure, you’re trying to make it less attractive to attack it in the first place.
This simply is not true.
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impossible in what way? When I fly around that place commonly called “highsec” i see a lot of player structures. It appears that impossible might not be accurate since other people are doing it.
edit - sorry, i didnt read that correctly.
Could you elucidate you reasoning as to why wardec should be impossible outside of null? Would wardec even matter in null? They don’t appear to need concord permission to go to war in null.