What's the deal with Krai Veles?

I couldn’t have said it better myself. Exploiting the desire for stability by offering an end to the turmoil if the baseliners merely fall into line and do as they’re told is an excellent strategy.


It’s nice to be recognized. You folk made for stiff resistance. Good show.


Krai Veles is quite nice, worked hard to take those systems, and I’m enjoying operating and staying there. Even got myself a Veles Survival Suit just for that extra flair.


+1 on that, we definitely did some good work. Good times all around.

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I really don’t give a damn what they consider strange.

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That’s fine.

I have not been involved in earthworm affairs, but I can report my planet factories and mines have never run smoother. So whatever they are doing down there, keep up the good work!



I was originally going to make my next update about Wirashoda or Ala, but the news caught my eye and I knew I needed to go see what it was all about. So, I made my way over to Senda and requested a meeting with some members of the local provisional government. Senda was the original home of Stribog Kybernaut Subclade, so the executives were already familiar with me, granting swift acquiescence to my request, and a few details that many other Kybernauts would not be privy to. I don’t intend to spill all the beans, but prepare to be enlightened.

The Attack

Last week, cladeships identified as belonging to Clade Svarog entered Senda and descended upon Senda V. The intruding fleet consisted of a few Vedmaks, Kikimoras, and Damaviks; by no means a real invasion, but enough to unsettle the Clade Veles tactical troika present. They unloaded a contingent of ground troops and fired on the drones present. The settlement was declared an active combat zone and Clade Veles strategic troika directed the civilians to anti-air and anti-ground defense systems while the tactical troika engaged the encroaching Svarog directly with drone support. Reports indicate that after a fierce firefight the Clade Svarog troops were overwhelmed by the defense and pulled back into the surrounding area which had already been terraformed(I refuse to keep saying “nanoforming”) by mutaplasmids. In the days that followed, the tactical troika of Clade Veles grouped a large number of the locals into units and went chasing them around the strange landscape until they were finally cornered and driven off. Accounts from those who participated tell that the Triglavians, both Svarog and Veles, seemed to be oddly familiar with the new terrain, while the conscripts were clearly out of their element. This melded together with the combat prowess of the Clade Svarog troops to make them quite difficult to pin down even with the significant numerical superiority granted by these recruited residents.

The Resistance

I of course had to inquire about the Caldari Resistance that brought knowledge of this minor incursion to the cluster at large. The executives of Senda are well aware of their existence. While they do lend assistance, anti-resistance operations have largely been designated the responsibility of Clade Veles itself. Without telling too much of the practices, Veles conscripts bioadapted inhabitants directly to their command to help subdue the resistance. I’m told that they don’t receive updates on this often, but that inferring the situation from various things suggests that the advantage mostly rests in the court of Clade Veles. I don’t get the impression they expect this to be quashed soon, but that it is likely that it eventually will run out of steam, depending on how long EDENCOM can maintain the current rate of supply and how willing these people are to keep fighting their own.


Bioadaptation is a very interesting process and I hesitate to say anything about it. I will say that according to my sources once the effects of properly done organized bioadaptation were on display, the population became much less hesitant to take the plunge. Productivity per capita across the system has seen a general uptick despite the tumultuous transition. Bioadaptation enhances the traits necessary for a person’s occupation and tailors their survivability to the environment they will be working in, reducing the need for protective equipment where valid and increasing their raw working ability.


I did mention the drones earlier didn’t I? I suppose I should let you in on what’s going on with these guys. The rogue drones, Clade Veles are big on them, and have managed to bring quite a few into the fold. I’m sure those of you who piddle around the conduit loops know them well. The Navka Overminds. They do not exist exclusively in space. Clade Veles has employed them extensively to assist with a variety of tasks, from military to civilian application. They’re especially useful on the more hostile planet types, and have served to boost the overall productivity of several systems beyond their original levels. It is common to see troika on the ground being accompanied by drones.

In Closing

Senda is a bit of a unique case among the Caldari worlds. Because we worked to soften the people up long before the Domain of Pochven was woven, Clade Veles has found these Caldari more receptive to their advances than those in other systems. It is not particularly surprising a resistance network exists given how stubborn State and corporate military personnel are. In Wirashoda we have employed our own anti-resistance teams to assist Clade Veles, and diverting these forces to aid in Senda may be in the cards. Clade Svarog’s visit is not entirely appreciated given the significance of the Senda system to SKS3, though its status as a border system is not lost on me. More to come in the next update.


That’s a fancy way of saying “we blew them into pieces when they tried”.

I know we’re not friends and will not be, but I at least appreciate these updates. Official information is difficult to come by.


What reports I have received from my own facilities on the ground, the Svarog incursion was more focused on clashing with the defending militia than gathering resources. Unpleasant as it may have been for those in the frontlines, I do believe it was little more than an act of intercladistic militant proving so typical within The Struggle.
Senda’s location along the Svarog-Veles border must make it a valid location where the rival clades can, in a limited degree, engage one another like that.

You are very wrong in thinking Svarog as some noble warrior type just engaging local militias and those who shoot back in honorable contest. They are not predictable like that, and the most definitely do murder civilian groups without a care in the world.

Plenty people on Skarkon entertain and have entertained the notion that if they just “prove” themselves to Svarog enough it’ll get better. It’s not working as intended.


I don’t mean to imply any such thing, I personally align my ideals with those of Veles, as does most of Stribog, but to claim that this incursion was anything more substantial seems simply erroneous.
I have no reports at hand that any pillaging took place during the attack, and the force was grossly insufficient to even establish a significant beachhead. This was a probing attack, one meant to test Senda’s defenses and Svarog’s own offensive capabilities. I do not for a moment suspect that the clades will attack themselves with the ferocity they showed during the summer. This is proving, plain and simple, a sustained clash for the mutual improvement of the whole. A chance for Veles to fill in gaps in their defenses and drill their new militia while Svarog troops improve their own tactics. The goal is the attainment of metaxy, not domination or self destruction.

I wish you better luck than most people who put their faith in Svarog like that, then.

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His account read more as a simple report of the occasion and not a prediction of general behavior, at least to my eyes. Granted, my perception is quite different from most. Also -

Of course, none of this would be necessary or anything at all were it not for the Collective murdering the system and desecrating its tomb for their own agenda. An agenda we actually know very little about.

Don’t mistake my interpretations of your reports as approval for the actions leading up to these events. Even if their end goal is relatively benign or beneficial, their means were despicable, exceeding the worst of any of the Four Empires’ atrocities. There were alternatives at every step of the way, both for Kybernauts and Triglavians.

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Not that I particularly care, but explain.

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Ah, I suppose you haven’t witnessed one of my deconstructions of the full effects of murdering a feckin sun. I’ll disregard any effect on capsuleer business in this post, because honestly we can pick up and move quite easily compared to the rest of the troubles.

To begin, Kybernauts most often claim their motivation to be a grudge against the Empires. However, their actions completely missed doing any significant damage to the Empire leadership’s agendas. The Caldari State suffered the greatest shakeup to their operations and that has only resulted in the furtherance of megacorporate interests.

The vast majority of destruction affects the baseliner populations of the systems in question. People who were simply trying to make a living, raise a family, now have had their homes become completely unrecognizable at best, and at worst have lost everything to their name, to say nothing of the actual death toll among folks who ain’t coming back. Folks who had no chance to prove themselves because they simply never had the means to, families with children, dead, scattered, or mutated.

And all of this is simply the immediate effects. Now I ain’t no professional scientist, but I do have a wide range of basic knowledge. It shouldn’t take much thought to realize that, at the very least, each of the 27 stars affected by stellar transmuters have had a significant drop in output on at least the visible light spectrum.
This in turn is an inescapable extinction event for the ecosystems of planets in these systems. The naturally occurring plants die to a lack of the sunlight they rely on, the local animal populations die when the plants are gone, leaving barren wastelands or some mutated travesty engineered by the Collective.
This is the end of millennia of natural evolution in the affected systems, the murder of unknown further millennia of evolution in the future, to be replaced by an artificial ecosystem that probably couldn’t sustain itself in the first place considering the Triglavians had to come here.

Full offense, this is your feckin problem, and the Kybernauts in general. Y’all stopped caring. The only thing left now is destruction. Left unchecked, it’s just a spiral into entropy. Feck that and feck you.

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Well, even when dully noted, that is the way of things.

And as most cases, the ego really dislikes the perspective of having its illusory form torn away.

With respect to your beliefs, “the way of things” is one matter while wanton destruction is another. As I understand it, enlightenment is a process that one grows into, not a matter that is forced from the outside. I would argue that both the Kybernauts and the Collective are very much dedicated to their own ego to the point of forcing it upon others.

Furthermore, right and wrong are not a matter of ego. When I received a signal asking for help evacuating Raravoss, the right thing to do was to help. When I looked upon Raravoss’ dying star as I brought those people out, the right thing to do was to prevent further suffering. When the next invasion broke through and people were crying out for a leader, the right thing to do was to swallow my instinctive aversion to leadership and establish a fleet to push back.
I’m fairly certain those convictions were not a matter of ego.

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Facts. Entropy is a very observable phenomenom.

In agreement.

Oh, some are indeed. Some just flow with their paths naturally.

Some would say otherwise, but that is a topic for another place, another mood and another time.

Just saying things left checked or unchecked, entropy goes on.

Only to not count the chickens before they hatch, the megacorps have yet to quell the political unrest.

Actually, planetside destruction was provoked exclusively by planetside resistance. Good job Caldari State…

You’re still peddling this. Not only can bioadaptation chambers be used to modify more than just humans(though they obviously take priority), the mutaplasmid swarms ultimately induce bioadaptation in organisms they come in contact with. Imprecise though it may be, the end result is that viable populations of native flora and fauna that can survive the new conditions are produced.

Someone missed a few classes. Mutaplasmid bacterial colonies thrive on the ■■■■■■■ rocks floating in Abyssal Deadspace. An ecosystem founded on these things can sustain itself nearly anywhere.

Specifically in the context of the Collective. I just had to see what they could do.

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Bioadaptation is an artificial mutation. It’s a subversion, and destruction, of the natural course of evolution. The process is involuntary and in some cases lethal.

Then why didn’t the Collective stay there? Eh? Or, why not cultivate these colonies on dead worlds instead of ones with active thriving ecosystems already? That would have been not only a feasible alternative, it would’ve been downright benevolent.

Yes, how dare people decide to defend the only homes they’ve ever known?

Nothing about these invasions is justifiable. There were always alternatives, chances to not only find their own niche but also to use their technology for the good of all. Instead we have mass casualties and more of the same crap we already had with the Four Empires. The Kybernauts have become a copy of the monsters they sought to fight.
Stop trying to fool yourselves. It’s too late to avoid the history of atrocity you now share in common with the Empires. If you want to become something different, better, than the Big Four, cease hostilities, allow the planetary populations to leave should they choose to do so, and start expanding into the outer reaches of the cluster colonizing dead worlds. Take responsibility for the wrongs you’ve done, do no further wrong.


Oh please, if you are for some reason so stubbornly attached to what is “natural”, as if humanity is some sort of mysterious force that is not part of nature itself, then go right ahead and rip your implants out and suspend all your cloning contracts, you glorious technological marvel, you. We routinely manipulate and shape living organisms and entire ecosystems alike, but when the Collective does it with improved speed, effectiveness and precision, suddenly they are committing some kind of affront to god’s world. Unless you are blinded by the dogma of some sort of cult, to think any of this is intrinsically wrong is just plain hypocritical on your part.

I should have guessed that only one so woefully ignorant on the Collective’s actual objectives could involve himself in this conflict with such passion and still side with EDENCOM of all factions. The factional militias that have fought alongside you at least fought for their homes, their beliefs and their culture. What have you fought for? A dysfunctional shell of a coalition used as a means to bypass even those few restrictions CONCORD is supposed to abide by? One that has continually sent out fleet after fleet after fleet in Pochven just for them to routinely get wiped out?

I would suggest you at very least listen to the messages Zorya Triglav has so widely distributed throughout the cluster by billboards and semiosis consoles alike. Their only interest is in the stars themselves, the Collective is working on a stellar-based spatial engineering project of untold scale, all while they are being exterminated by Drifter fleets. Had they not been invaded by them I assure you, all hints at their existence we would ever get would be archaic and cryptic references to them and their technology inscribed in ancient databases floating around in deadspace. This is a people that fights for their survival. Their occupation of the planets surrounding their desired stars is a matter of practicality, and the fact that they even bother bioadapting the local populations and ecosystems at large are nothing short of an act of benevolence, for they most certainly do not require them for their task. The loss of life incurred by the war is, of course, unfortunate as always, but the scale of this is far larger than the idyll of some baseliners.