Multiboxing has it’s place in EVE and should definitely not be removed, but CCP could easily make it less convenient for players to multibox a dozen characters all by themselves in a competitive environment.
Adding a small delay between a client getting focus and a client sending commands to the server adds a defined restriction that even hardware that has been improving over the years cannot circumvent.
And then, when mass multiboxing is less feasible, CCP can look into reducing freighter hitpoints so that the ganking scene is still possible but with a lower emphasis on mass multiboxing.
You need a bookmark aligned with the undock of that station, and another one well within the docking ring so you don’t land just outside it and get popped while slowboating that last inch. That’s it.
Bookmarks at a gate will do nothing for you in a T1 hauler, but half of them can easily cloak-mwd and the other half can be shoehorned into it if you really need them to be for some reason.
There are miners that are botting.. It is not just gankers.. I have seen this more time than I care to count. A dozen retrievers with an Orca off to one side. All the accounts names are the same, but with a number. It is not as if the botters are trying to really hide that they are botting.
Gankers are some of my customers. The amount of ammo they buy and cheap destroyers. Keeps me in space cheerios. The miners are even better. But then I am a filthy arms merchant so there is that.
I don’t think you’re filthy arms merchant. It not your fault people want weapons/ships to shoot each other with. You just providing a service like Starbucks provides coffee
Maybe stop being a victim for your whole life. Kinda sad when you bring that perpetual victim mentality to a f**king game.
So? This is true of literally every PvP game in existence, and is also true of real life. Why the f**k should a dystopian world of immortal space gods be any different?
You can make yourself nearly 100% immune to ganking in this game just by not being a lazy, greedy moron.
It really is simple.. A botter is lazy about naming his alts. all the pilots will often to be the same or similar name with a number. Followed by being mostly of one but sometimes two different empire races. Caldari and Ammar as an example.
The second good indication is how the fleet moves. Almost in tandem with each other as the fleet works across a 'Belt. A little to coordinated for a mining fleet with different corp members. Another indication is sometimes the botter constantly moving his main from the orca to another ship (often a retriever) . When a ship finishes a asteroid. There is often a very long pause before the ship moves again to another asteroid.
You can almost sense the person on the other side of the screen suddenly seeing the ship stop mining. Doing the second or two click on the screen to get into the alt account. Then move the ship to the next asteroid.
With a little of your own observation. When you land in a 'belt you can just about tell who is mostly or is AFK and those that are not. Checking out who your neighbors that are in that 'belt mining is something that I always do.
I expect everyone to be doing the same when I land on grid and am moving towards my first asteroid. It might be paranoia, but it helps to know if someone is there that might be hostile to my corp.
This Is Eve after all and unless we are in the same corp I am going to watch you as you watch me. We may talk a bit and maybe get friendly. But there is always going to be the suspicion on both sides of how far can we trust each other.
Not only botters are lazy in naming their alts. Multiboxers too often use such a naming scheme.
How do you distinguish a botter from a multiboxer?
And how is in this case a botter different from a miner who goes AFK to grab a coffee during mining? It’s not like this activity requires a lot of attention.
and only because a dude has 12 quadrillion accounts in belt and all hase the same name with a number on means its a bot ? oO dude … youre way off …. IF you bring such a statement then you have to prove youre statement is correct otherwise its just your feeling … and nobody cares about your feelings
i am a botter because a lot of my mining alts has the same name ? oO your feelings are stupid
this is just called “anchor” and i do it aswell because i only have to move one ship and not all my alts manualy oO again … your feelings are stupid
maybe he´s just afk mining like a lot of dudes done this ? i know i´m repeating but your feelings are stupid
Yes, it is. You’re wrong; nothing you’ve provided as evidence is valid.
Just because someone multiboxes doesn’t mean they use automation or input broadcasting. You’d never recognize my 8 Hulks and an Orca as a multiboxer because they all have unique names, so naming is irrelevant. I extensively use Tags to mark the rocks, keeping my Miners organized and anchor them on the Orca so they move as one. As for the delay in shifting to the next rock, you try keeping the ore holds of 8 Hulks empty and the ore compressed without input broadcasting. Sometimes things lag because running multiple accounts while following the rules is a bit of work.
The only assist program I use for any of this is called EVE-O-Preview. It gives me small previews of my active clients that I can click on instead of using Win-Tab to bring up the same information. It is also 100% CCP approved for use and doesn’t violate the TOS. It only gives me a glance, nothing I can interact with.
You tell me that you don’t know about fleet functions, fleet warps, formations and simple “approach to” and “keep at distance”, fleet hangars and ship maintenance bays yet? It may all look like magic to you, but it all is inherent EVE functions that facilitate all those mining fleets without needing to be any bot. And if anything, a long pause would be indicative of a human player having his fleet coordinated and doing something else in the meanwhile and not a bot.
You kill one of them. Eventually, when they warp to station to offload their ore and come back out into the belt in a capsule, there’s really no other explanation.
A multiboxer is generally a lot more on the ball. Though yes one can be just as lazy as the other. My experience between the two. Is that the multiboxer is generally a lot more active. I am using a broad brush in generalizing here based on my experience Usually a fleet of two or three ships plus an orca or porpoise. Also is less likely ignore who is landing on grid. I know one multiboxer that shows up periodically on my system with his small fleet of three plus either an orca or porpoise. Invites me to fleet up with him so that I can joy the added boost in mining. He does not read english all that well and my Cyrillic is nonexistent. But we manage anyways
And your sentence is why miners are also some of my best customers. There is no activity that really permits you to step away from your monitor.
An AFK miner is miner that will be a future customer. I put on a podcast, an audiobook, or some music keeping the volume low. Meanwhile I am clicking my dscan watching for something should not be there, keeping a weathered eye on my overview, and listening for the distinctive thump of something landing on grid or that sound of someone scanning your cargo.
Priceless!