Forgotten which alt you’re posting on ?
I mean, you’re the same person who commented about ganking….
“I’ve done your playstyle, and personally think it’s the slimiest, most garbage way to play the game, so I don’t do it anymore.”
Why is it so easy to recover bad security status. Endless suicide ganking in high sec with 0 penalty
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LOL I do have an idea of what I am talking about. A rather good one actually. I am 60+ year old man. With a lifetime of experience in many things. You see the thing is that I have a good grasp on just what a real science study is. What protocols and controls should look like
At the same time I have more success than failure in spotting a bot by using a little critical thinking and the anecdotal evidence of personal experience. I am claiming that I can spot a bot more times than not.
LMFAO Oh my gods you are funny. I reduce the chance of being ganked.
1. That does not make me a carebear.
2. Any ship that I lost IS my fault.
3. Maybe you missed this part. I sell the ships, ect to GANKERS as well as MINERS.
I am a filthy arms dealer.
Oh and thanks for the uncalled for name calling. But then I am not the butt hurt one here now am I?
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How are the two mutually exclusive?
One side is playing by the rules, even if I don’t like their playstyle.
The other side is demanding the rules be changed to accommodate them, and I also don’t like their playstyle.
Clearly you are. 
I’m not the one crying to have rules changed in my favor.
You only attack the messenger when you have no argument against the message.
Buying your way into skills to fly a high value ship, without playing the for any decent amount of time, is exactly the problem. Because if the OP took the time to actually play the game, during the normal time it would usually take to train those skills, he would have learned that ganking is a thing. He would have learned the skill in how to prevent it, or at the very least, know not to fly through Uedama. And that there are ways to prevent it.
So yes. Wallet warrioring is the problem.
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What !? No.. I think you have me confused with someone else.. But considering what you are posting lately I think you got lost in the who said what.
To clarify. I am not against multiboxing. CCP allows for that. But Botting is against the EULA
“Botting in EVE Online is using unauthorized automated programs to perform actions without player input, which is forbidden and leads to bans. Multiboxing, on the other hand, is manually controlling multiple EVE accounts at once, which is permitted by the game’s rules as it requires the player to perform all the action. The key difference is human control: bots lack it, while multiboxing requires it, even if it’s managing multiple clients simultaneously.”
How to tell the difference
- Botting:
Characters may perform the same actions repeatedly, have “unnatural” movement patterns, or fail to respond to in-game checks from game masters.
- Multiboxing:
The player shows a high level of skill and efficiency in managing multiple ships. They will be making quick, conscious decisions to adapt to the changing game environment.
I am not wanting any rules changed. In fact that has never been my argument. As botting is already illegal and a player can get a ban for doing so. I have said that I can pick out a bot more times than not. Through simple observation and my own anecdotal personal experience.
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That wasn’t the scenario described, please try to furnish a response that is actually relevant in the future.
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Entirely? I shot someone on the undock of jita so I did not have to wait out a self destruct timer for a medical clone jump. Just chose someone at random. What decision would have changed the outcome?
The changes ( like on on focus input delays ) being argued for would specifically impact multiboxers and botters. There are already EULA and TOS provisions that could be interpreted in support of outright bans, if that is preferred instead?
Recently saw an old clip of Shroud jumping up a door onto some boxes to clutch a CS round. All about the plan and not target selection, shooting first and aiming ability?
Before Pochven there was more than one High Security route. Now there is one, which from time to time becomes none due to the corruption mechanic. Even if a handful was once three, that is quite a lot more than what is available today.
In 2005 not many could buy a PC with the power to run 20 accounts. A machine that will comfortably run 8 on potato mode is almost mid tier.
With that kind of attitude, ISK Boxer would still be legal.
They were pointing out how obvious it was that a character was a bot when it warps to an asteroid field in a pod and that seemed to be contentious?
The word “pod” is not present in either the bit I quoted and responded to, nor in the entirety of the post it was clipped from. I’ll quote it again.
Not really sure what you’re hallucinating but it is an entirely different conversation apparently.
Actually not completely correct. You can know. If you report a bot, and if it turns out the account was botting, CCP will send you an email confirming it. I have reported bots and I have received such clarification. If you report and don’t receive clarification then I guess the bot wasn’t a bot, or it wasn’t possible to determine it. But I can’t say whether such confirmations are sent out in 100% of cases.
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Well, then they are sending me emails with confirmations of bans against accounts I’ve reported for nothing.
I personally do believe actions are taken against bots. However, it is most likely these accounts just receive a temporary or a ‘warning’ ban, probably not lasting all that long.
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I was the one who presented with a pod example. I was once out in an asteroid belt and observed this fleet of miners and for whatever reason I can’t remember I suspected they were bots. So I went out and killed one of the miners in that fleet. It happened that the fleet kept on mining (which in itself does not indicate botting). But after a little while they all docked up together (to offload the ore) and when they undocked – have a guess – the one that I killed came back out in his pod, warped to the belt with the rest of them, and then just stood there. I presume because he had forgotten to fit his pod with mining lasers. No, that was botting. I reported that whole fleet, and I received botting confirmation from CCP consequently.
I presented this example just as an interjection to the conversation on how to make sure someone is, in fact, botting. There are ways. Something an AFK player just doesn’t do. But most situations are difficult to tell for sure just from gameplay aspect, whether a bot or an AFK person.
What a load of nonsense. There’s long periods when there are no gankers whatever at Uedama. Getting through Uedama is easy if you simply scout it first.
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Now come on.. You are going with common sense.. Are crazy? Common sense who uses common sense. If people started doing that the there would be chaos in the streets. Amarrian and Minmatar singing Kumbuya in the street, cats and dogs living together, were talking an old fashion apocalypse wide end times here.
People doing the common sense things. Seriously my business would suffer. How am I going to make Isk if people started using common sense. Won’t someone think of us filthy arms merchants.. I have a dozen kids to feed and my only child needs shoes.. And little Janey my other daughter wants ballet lessons.
People doing common sense thing would ruin me. No, that won’t do. Please Eloken in the names of the Amarrian god. Who ever that bloke is. Do not use Common sense. Just fly blind and with a full cargo. If you started using common sense. It might start a trend and then where would I be? Out of business, that is where. Why I might have to take up an honest job. Like spying or being a PR consultant.. (that is actually something that you can do in the game) https://content.eveonline.com/CareerGuide/EVECAREERSGUIDE.pdf
I do not want to have to work an honest job. if you use common sense and start a trend. I might have to do what my eldest son of eight said. Get a job pops and and stop loafing around being a filthy arms merchant..
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Indeed. Btw, do you report bots often? Even in 2025? When is latest comfirmation email you received from CCP?
Honestly, I used to report bots. But I don’t bother anymore. The clear bot that we killed like 3 years ago in Eskunen was not banned desppite we reported it from like 20 accounts at minimum (mining Orca fleet + Mackwinaws that kept mining desite we were killing the Mackinaws one by one over a full hour (took us about 20 minutes to get one Mackinaw due to the criminal timers and number of jumps to overcome) and then there was the Iviicek affair. More gankerrs and loot thieves clearly scripts the looting and it is obvious because of that cargo container dropped near which is a requirement for their bot to work - if you steal it, it is quickly replaced. It is just frustrating…
Nonsense, there was more ganks back then than is now. Number of pipe systems doesn’t matter. There were gankers in both Uedama and Niarja for majority of the day back then. If anything, Uedama is safer now.
No need to even do that since there is bot that is streaming Uedama gate and local 24/7.
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Its an arms race of the bot software vs the bans, not like someone who is just creating an army of gank alts has any real risk exposure.
As often as I think I see them. I only report when I’m quite sure it’s a bot, not in cases when it’s obvious it could be an AFK player. Can’t say I report that much, but I have a few times.
I think I last reported a couple of years ago. I don’t keep clutter in my inbox, so those emails are long deleted, but I think 2-3 years ago was the last time I reported anybody and received confirmation from CCP.
Why did you ask ‘Even in 2025’? Has something changed with regards to bot reporting this year?
I think the last time I came across bots was about 10 months ago. I remember there was a spat of botting going on. I think out of the 4 or 5 I reported. 2 or maybe 3 were actual bots And like you, Meridan, I deleted the confirmation letters.
Though the one I did not report was one as the wife and I were leaving a 'belt. Got ganked hard. I would have stuck around for the fireworks, but I think this was an invitation only party..
Nope nothing changed this year. But if you are reporting the bots anytime you think you see one and your last email confirmation that CCP took an action against a pilot you reported was 2-3 years ago that tells us something.
Either CCP no longer ban bots at all (unless they RMT). Or they no longer notify players about taking an action against pilot they reported.
Either way that is sad.