Go on then prove it, prove you can triple your money without being countered
Why is it so easy to recover bad security status. Endless suicide ganking in high sec with 0 penalty
Or it was not bot at all and there was no action to be taken.
As i have written above, i love to behave like a bot if some wisenhimer disturbs my fleet mining. CCP can clearly see that i am no bot but those people just continue to get red in their face and explode in hatred if you don’t talk to them in local, ignore their bumping and block their convo attempts. Also no one forbids you to number your characters and ship names from 1 to 10 or return in a capsule to the mining after they gank you. It just makes them more angry as they think they see a botter before their eyes and start to hit the report button without getting any answer from CCP because they are wrong.
Pure fun for me.
Or, at least make the can a flashy red for anyone to loot. After a certain amount of time, based on the security status of the system, the loot cannister then becomes accessible for everyone to loot from.
OP Is correct, I have played since 2006 and lost count of how many friends and corpmates that have quit because of this.
CCP has lost 100’s of thousands of players to satisfy a handful of gankers abusing game mechanics that need to be reworked.
also -10 should not be allowed to activate jump gates in 5 and above systems, not only is it against the lore the police would never allow criminals in secured space,
They should have to put effort in to get back to secure space by get status back up to re-enter.
We desperately need re-works of mechanics, it would bring back countless players and retain current players as well.
This is a LIE, I have played since 2006 and it has always been a HOT topic and has bleed more players than anything in gaming history.
I know 5 personal friends that quit back in 2008 because of hi-sec ganking and countless others, Entire corps have disbanned and rage quit.
Catering to a handful of greifers at the expense of what must now be 100’s of thousands if not millions of lost players in 20 years to hi-sec ganking.
I was in a MERC corp and it was amazing how many mining corps quit over ganking, it was sad to watch players just bleed from the game.
Dune Awakening just got gutted of it’s player base for just this.
Like it or not something must be changed for the health of the player base.
Not suggesting ending it all together but it’s long overdue to be re-worked, EVE only has 20k players left playing and how many of those are Alpha accounts.
20k players is a game on life support.
I haven’t lost a ship to a highsec gank since 2007, and I have 15 characters spread over 10 accounts. Highsec ganking isn’t a problem, the idiots who fail at Eve and get themselves ganked, then come to the forums to fu¢king cry about it are the problem.
Make a fu¢king effort.
There is no need to be toxic, rude and name calling in a constructive discussion.
We know your are leet sauce and greatest player ever to Grace EVE with your presence.
But we are talking about the majority of players that quit over a failed mechanic that caters to just a small few at the expense of what must now be 100’s of thousands if not millions.
Greifers always rage in the forums at the mention of removing their easy targets.
They relish in how many people they can get to quit the game.
And Greifers are always the loudest in the forums when the issue arises, real PVP’rs don’t greif
Those of us that care about the health of the player base and wanting more players to join and stay in the game are addressing the #1 reason people leave this game.
Nobody is suggesting removing ganking all together but to making it very hard and costly to do so in Hi-Sec
Why do you think so many games moved PVP to instanced PVP, they were stopping the bleeding of their player base. Ofcourse I’m not suggesting this, just saying it’s a issue everywhere, a big one, And smart developers see and address it.
I am a ganker. How do you want to see ganking changed? How do you want to make it more costly and very hard to do?
With open-minded regards
-James Fuchs
Great Question, I would love to hear suggestions on this.
here are some I can think of, again just suggestions open for improvements.
-10’s can’t activate .5 gates and above -8’s can’t activate .6 and so on
Make it so they have to put a little work in to get their sec status up to gank. and getting sec status up should be a much greater task than what it is.
Make sec status hits bigger
Allow miners some kind of protection ability as they learn the game mechanics such as hiring NPC’s like Concord to protect them while mining.
Shield Modules that only work in .7 and above that can absorb a hefty volley or make it a system wide thing deployed by Concord, Forcing gankers to bring much more fire power on the field,
Concord confiscating stolen goods like they did drugs
Suspects have a major docking and undocking delays to curb insta docking griefers that have plagued dodixie for years
Smartbombs disabled in .7 and above
We need Things that would force them to be more selective in their targets and require better planning and surmountable firepower. They would have to work for the kill.
Remember not everyone grasps EVE game mechanics as easy as others they need time and a place to do so, it takes months for fast learners and even longer for others.
We need to retain our player base.
20k players is life support
Why should ganking be nerfed at all? Who cares if some crybabies don’t play? A game which caters to everyone will be about as fun as Farmville or Candy Crush. Perhaps that’s what you should play instead?
It’s a PvP game - if you don’t like that, move along…
I absolutely agree, buy tags, turn them in, security status is raised, they don’t even have to farm those tags themselves.
Because it’s too easy to do, it’s too easy to recover.
If they removed tags what would gankers do, recycle their character, start a fresh one and inject skill points into new clone, which they also do already.
It’s literally a revolving door.
How would you know? You’ve never killed anything.
If it wasn’t it would be something that a prolific ganker could not do daily as their chosen activity.
Ganking is a legitimate playstyle. I’m allowed to do it daily.
Stop whining.
Did I say it wasn’t, I stated it’s too easy to do and recover from, that isn’t whining that’s just the facts.
You don’t know that. You lack experience.
You are just crying because I ganked you.
That isn’t an argument, it’s just whining.
I was waiting for that emotional crack to show, I never said anything to you, never gave you your dopamine hit of salt, and never brought it here to use that, you did.
You are giving me the salt now.
![]()
![]()