Why is it so easy to recover bad security status. Endless suicide ganking in high sec with 0 penalty

[Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras]

@Tommy_Fourfingers

-8’s can’t activate .4 and so on

uh what? .4 is low sec who cares what your sec status is there.

@Tommy_Fourfingers

getting sec status up should be a much greater task

either shooting rats or buying tags is the current cost to get sec standings. what more do you want them to do?

@Tommy_Fourfingers

Allow miners some kind of protection ability as they learn the game mechanics such as hiring NPC’s like Concord to protect them while mining.

lol no.. not when players can freely do that. if you wanna mine, you have 30 days in a safety net of space to learn how to mine. aside from that, join a corp and see if people will sit and watch you min to keep you safe.

@Tommy_Fourfingers

Smartbombs disabled in .7 and above

lol. no.. you already have to set safety to red, and if your bombs hit someone, you get concordokken in hisec.. and lose sec status…

[Tommy_Fourfingers]

@Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras

uh what? .4 is low sec who cares what your sec status is there.

Was a typo, thanks for pointing that out, meant to say .6 just fixed

@Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras

either shooting rats or buying tags is the current cost to get sec standings. what more do you want them to do?

It’s way too easy, I’m ex -10 pilot on my “Roman” Account it’s need to be much more tougher.
We never griefed it was beneath us, took no skill and ruined our rep. What satisfaction is there in killing low lvl in mining ship?
We ganked players if we thought there was profit, not newbs mining big difference

@Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras

lol no.. not when players can freely do that. if you wanna mine, you have 30 days in a safety net of space to learn how to mine. aside from that, join a corp and see if people will sit and watch you min to keep you safe.

You are missing the point and there is no 30 day safety net where you get that from?
If you were really a PVP’r you would not be attacking newer players in hi-sec it’s Griefing nothing more and killing our player base, it has always bleed players.
People have options they don’t tolerate it anymore they just quit.
If you cared about the future of the game you wouldn’t do it
Also there is no skill involved, it’s cheap and Toxic nothing more. unless you that insecure which in itself is more toxic

@Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras

lol. no.. you already have to set safety to red, and if your bombs hit someone, you get concordokken in hisec.. and lose sec status…

You have offered nothing constructive out side of “Nuh Uh”

[Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras]

@Tommy_Fourfingers

30 day safety net where you get that from

every new player has 30 days in rookie systems to learn as much as possible. they are free from griefing. ganking is not the same as griefing.

@Tommy_Fourfingers

offered nothing constructive

smartbombs have their consequences if they hit another ship in high sec… as i said safety has to be set to red to use them, and if a ship is hit, concord attacks you and destroys your ship.

[MB_ThePhotographer]

@Tommy_Fourfingers

Like it or not something must be changed for the health of the player base.

Yeah, like the lazy quitting. I started in 08 and the numbers were growing till 14.

@Tommy_Fourfingers

20k players is a game on life support.

CCP gave the game to the weak who have cc’s. Cash grab. Answers your statement about why the game is on life support.

If you volunteer to be a sheep in a game where there is always a butcher shop close by, then I dont know what to tell you…

[Aiko_Danuja]

@Tommy_Fourfingers

there is no 30 day safety net where you get that from?

My alliance has a standing rule that only players under 30 days are valid targets.

[Power_Armor]

@Tommy_Fourfingers

Like it or not something must be changed for the health of the player base.

Not suggesting ending it all together but it’s long overdue to be re-worked, EVE only has 20k players left playing and how many of those are Alpha accounts.

20k players is a game on life support.

You are totally wrong. EVE is not on life support. You numbers are out of thin air without any foundation. You need to consider timezones and even the distribution within. Also your average is wrong. We are at about 28k average and average is just average, not total. It is as healthy as ever and hast just been confirmed in an interview with CCP Burger about 4 days ago. It is linked in thread in the Communications Center.

[Yengwayo_Zembutoo]

[DrysonBennington]

Why is it so easy to recover bad security status? Paying real money in the form of PLEX that are used to purchase tags is my best guess.

[Chad_Frostpacker]

It costs about 500 million isk to repair -10 to I think close to zero or just under, July 2025 had repaired a naughty ganker pilot.

[Aiko_Danuja]

If you buy up all the tags, nobody will be able to gank!