Why should I renew my subscription?

That doesn’t test my claim at all. You need to test the things that prove it wrong in order to test a claim. You need to find a new player who has no experience, skill inject them to the level of a vet, and pit them against each other for an accurate test. The vet will win every time.

You are utterly clueless, mate. Also

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Look who’s back.

Sinking ever deeper.

No, that would be requiring to prove a negative.

We need to test whether the claim is true.

You can call it whatever you want.

The only replies you deserve are mockery and memes.

Be grateful you occasionally get something else.

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Oh boy, guy is still sinking.

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9gag and cheezeburger memes…

You cant even meme properly.

Ok, so first of all, a new player can actually fly more than noob ships. I think he can already fly almost all t1 frigates of his race and within minutes or hours he is probably able to fly faction frigates with full meta fitting.

The question is, where is the point where Remiels statement becomes true. We have already seen that you agree that his statement is true for a 1 month old player v.s. a 48 month old player.

So what are the exact conditions that his statement breaks down?

If the player is under a week old?

No, exactly the opposite.

He claimed an SP injector (which equals about 1month of SP) does NOT help a new player AT ALL.

Ergo, in the test, you cant have 1 month worth of SP, either by injector or otherwise.

You don’t deserve to be memed properly

You dont deserve to be memed at all, nor will I sink to your level.

Ok, I see what you try to say.

So it is only about that first injector in the first month. After that SP becomes less of a factor?

Sink?

Mate, this is that arrogance I was talking about revealing itself in the flesh. You think yourself above everyone. That puts you beneath everyone by default.

You can’t sink to my level if you’re already beneath me.

No, his argument was SP injectors dont help new players AT ALl.

That means whether its 0, 1, or 100 injectors, it wont help AT ALL.

Funny, since you have repeatedly posted that Im beneath you and dont even deserve proper memes etc.

Goddam, man :smiley: You really cant see it, can you.

So your problem simply is that it was an absolute?

I agree with you that there are edge cases where his statement is wrong.

Do you agree that if it was not formulated as an absolute, that it would apply in almost every situation?

I figured it was a semantics problem a few pages ago. He’s not worth it dude. Let him to float and splutter in his superiority complex.

It was formulated as an absolute.
And instead of re-formulating it, he made this mess in your thread.

If he, for example, changes his position to:

-“While SP injectors do help new players, they cannot confer player skill”

I will be satisfied, as that would be accurate and correct.

Salvos, don’t bother wasting any more time with this, they will constantly twist things around and post specific alternate conditions to hopefully get you to concede. We both know it’s skill points that boosts ship stats which is what wins the engagement.

Naturally they won’t accept it because it’s contrary to what they’ve been preaching all along. If their “experience” was actually the deciding factor enabling the win, then they would have no problem doing Corvette 1v1 in a new low skill character against an older high skill player who’s inexperienced in PvP.

Everyone knows that in the exact same ships, fit the exact same way, the player with the higher skill points will have more tank, more DPS, more range, more speed and more agility. No amount of experience can overcome ship stats increased by skill points. They know they won’t be able to dictate engagement tactics and they would ultimately lose.

So don’t bother wasting any more time here.

He might have had some help:

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By extension, I’m sure you would agree then that in PVE, a totally new player who injects SP is going to be just as efficient and effective as a 10 year veteran.

No skill involved at all aside from the skillpoints. None of us matter as players and the knowledge we gain means nothing to our play.

To me, that seems pretty stupid. PVE, just like PVP has it’s unique subtleties and the work that you have done for example in the PVE part of the community isn’t reliant on how many SP your character has, but what you bring to the game as a person.

If you can accept that, then surely you can also accept that in PVP, it’s much the same.

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