Wondering how many "mega multis" will be heading to Exordium to avoid ganks

At the stroke of midnight, on the 30th day, your ship should explode.

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no…simly as it is…no…

Maybe i just dislike people that bend the reality as long until it fits into what they believe the reality should be…and that includes not to mention ccp’s own numbers regarding PVP(1/3 minority) because this is not what those persons want to be real…Reality is a really stupid thing…only one exists…and numbers cannot lie…

Oh sweet summer child.

I come here to ask questions. And I also come here to give my point of view. And that we have in common.

What we do not have in common is the amount of “belief” you obviously have in CCP to keep to what they have stated in times past. I am sorry if my words provoke something in you. But I will never “fanboi” for CCP. they don’t deserve it.

What I do know, is this game has a long list of people seeing said rules and going to the extremes to getting their playstyle right to the line of “exploit”.

You may think whatever you wish about this new area, so shall I. But I have seen too many times where CCP decides that what they have done was wrong and then they spend way too much time over correcting their “mistake” by taking a blowtorch to the operating table.

But one thing I will not do to people is judge a book by it’s cover. Maybe you should look into that.

I do all the time. The cover of a book is designed to present specific information that would help me choose whether I want to read it.

you’re the second person to use that. Like I told them before they blocked me, statements like above are thought terminating cliche.

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well, you live your life how you see fit, and good luck when the iceberg hits.

expressions of feelings toward something are not terminating anything. It’s how i perceive the situation. Your perception may be different. I won’t block you for that.

a thought terminating cliche is loaded language that ignores nuances an/or differences in order to stop any critical thought towards whatever it is you’re using the language for.

In the case of the recent uses of variations of fan boy, it’s to lump people in together that may have drastically different opinions but are reduced to one thing in order to dismiss the entire group of people.

They way I understood the title of the thread, and I may be wrong here, is that that space is totally exploitable if one decided to keep rolling alts and mechanically or not employ resource extraction, even if the value is half, and HALF scares the crap outta me. I was thinking 1/5th or lower.

Maybe I misunderstood the OP which is referring to existing characters, I already skipped to the end, these people are professionals, how you gonna distinguish legit new bros from fakes?

I also considered the stress on security team. But now they’re all useless considerations, what is done is done.

Uta dude, CALM DOWN. It’s going to happen anyway, why are you so angry with an opinion?

Ccp doesnt try to distinguish who is an alt and who is a fresh player. A character less than 30 days old is the metric they use.

Anyone “re rolling newbie chars” to “safely mine” in Exordium is stupid as a broken rock. Keeping the char and mining with ever-increasing skills and quality equipment will always bring in a lot more money, even if you get ganked multiple times a year. And thats not even going to happen if you just pick a quiet place to mine.

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Doesn’t matter what you think. If it is possible, someone will do it and have a reason for it.

It is a sandbox game. Someone will always do something you will not like, understand or agree with.

You could even have at it in an endless loop, trading your stuff to the next character at the end of the 30 days of the then expired Exordium character and continue.
Some will do it just to prove a point for their PVE only request and they will not even need an omega subscription for it.

So what??

It has no negative effect on the economy, because he will actually make less ore that goes to the market than by just keeping and developing the char.

There is simply not a single negative aspect for EVE Online doing that. He is only hurting himself. You guys act like that would be any kind of problem, but it isn’t.

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Of course he is hurting himself…but he is as well free to do so…even intentionally…

So why did you write so negative about it if it doesn’t have any impact and you don’t care?

Anyone “re rolling newbie chars” to “safely mine” in Exordium is stupid as a broken rock.

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Yes… old players are going to flock to roll characters and have armies of less than 30 day unskilled alts to mine Veldspar in the poorest region on the map :rofl:

See the map above? See the arrows? These guys are mining R32 and R64 moons in almost perfect safety with Rorqual boosts. That’s what veterans are doing. No one is going to waste time on a limited supply of Veldspar with untrained alts (or, even worse, dump skill injectors to alts that are intended to be rolled), and that’s without the fact that CCP declared farming as an exploit.

The whole OP’s post, along with many comments in here, are overreactions. They are overreactions not based on legitimate information, not based on even a speculation, but based on plain wrong assumptions that are contrary to what CCP is officially saying. How and why this thread is not locked, I honestly don’t know.

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According to “Da Rulez” all my characters are over 30 days old, so that makes me a veteran. I have no plans to get near or enter Exordia. From everything I have read on the official Q&A thread, it sounds to me like a very dull place. Maybe I will read the book when it comes out instead.

I thought this would be exit only, but it is not. According to the developers this will ease new players into the hot bath. I think it will be more like this;

Maybe I am wrong? I can only imagine those 31 day veterans will be wishing they never had to leave.

Have fun!

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I think you are right. The newbie region only solves a half of the problem: how to get new players in. Keeping them is whole another story, but I guess it’s one step at at time.

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So funny it makes perfect sense!

Glad she’s open minded on this new content.

New eden is always changing. Adapt or Quit.

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Says the character with a pr0n star name.

Pot, meet Kettle. There are half a dozen threads all with the participants going over the same topics, its surprising the ISD have not been more active.

Looking at the current ecosystem its an entirely defensible viewpoint, the consequences and accountability for ganking has been far too lenient and people are concerned as always CCP is failing to act before the are forced to and potentially ‘over correct’ in order to catch up.

Granted, many see the new region at this inevitable over correction and removal of what elsewhere is a core mechanic.

It is accurate when considering those who resisted some modulation of the ganking gameplay loop are mostly, if not entirely responsible for incubating an environment where the data supported and CCP felt this step were necessary. The creation of a truly safe zone was not on the spaceship bingo card, though given this is the direction taken, its highly doubtful anyone will be more receptive to ideas like turning security status tags into regular NPC loot exchangeable for LP/ISK.

They are either vested in the status quo or a sock puppet for someone who is as with most places on the internet.

The free speech of one man are words of treason to another.

It is one of many core elements, not the ONLY element.

Well said.

In this instance CCP has gone a direction so perpendicular to the multi decade history of the game its upset some folks who have gotten far too comfortable in their ‘safe’ environment and for the first time in a long time they feel under threat.

It is amusing to see the shoe on the other foot.

If only CCP had some kind of forum to communicate these details out prior to release.

Its an effort to make an issue out of a non issue, its exhausting watching a new thread every day trying to bandwagon people into a ‘Exordium Bad, Boo Hiss’ fevour that is simply not going to happen as the new region seems to rubbing off as a person insult.

Stop looking at what CCP says, look at what they do.

It is hard to imagine this entirely new region was required because of empty rookie ships in the starter systems, mobile depot spam or the constant spamming of hypernet and recruitment referral links.

This region would not have been necessary if the safety of new players was not in question.

The appropriate phrase here is

“You have only yourselves to blame”

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