Wondering how many "mega multis" will be heading to Exordium to avoid ganks

[Eloken_Toralen]

@Antihrist_Pripravnik

These guys are mining R32 and R64 moons in almost perfect safety with Rorqual boosts. That’s what veterans are doing. No one is going to waste time on a limited supply of Veldspar with untrained alts (or, even worse, dump skill injectors to alts that are intended to be rolled), and that’s without the fact that CCP declared farming as an exploit.

An excellent illustration of why concerns around the new region being some kind of infinite money glich are without merit.

The problem is not the resources, the problem is that out in Null, gankers do not have CONCORD to protect them until they shoot first.

Until Exordium, Sovereign Null literally had the largest number of safe systems.

[Syzygium]

You are wrong in assuming new players would need to leave Exordium on day 31.

You can stay there and mine or do other things as long as you want. As long as you are not negatively affecting the environment by quickly removing content with extreme high tech equipment or your own multiboxfleet, bumping ships with Machariels or something like that.

[Eloken_Toralen]

I have no idea why people are so hung up on Exordium being some kind of industrial cheat code.

It is actually quite sad, nobody seems to care this will be a whole new area to find ( ostensibly ) new people who are interested in the game.

[Lydra_Victor]

Guess, introverted solo players will be hanging at Exordium.

Exordium current mechanics is just the beginning. It will evolve over time. Lots of events can be done there without the risks of being affected by untamed PVP

[Christine_Creed]

@Eloken_Toralen

I have no idea why people are so hung up on Exordium being some kind of industrial cheat code.

It is actually quite sad, nobody seems to care this will be a whole new area to find ( ostensibly ) new people who are interested in the game.

On my, it certainly is a new dawn. A simple short post that just explained it all.

This sums it all up right here 100%. Theres been a pretty sizable group of people that have stated that they were going there to mingle with the new players, to show them the way, to show them what they need to know for their travels into the rest of the game. Most of us, including me…a person that didnt like this idea at first but do now…are excited about socializing with new blood in the game.

What did a few select here do? They went totally batshit and automatically thought we were all going there to get instantly rich off of worthless resources. We are all going to drive huge fleets of exhumers and mine the entire area out. No other thoughts were stated about any other positive mechanics that could occur there…these few went straight to the negatives.

We even have an official Barney FIfe in there that will be watching for players over 30 days old dare to light off a laser. Talk about letting their logic go straight to the pooper.

[Lydra_Victor]

@Darquies_Shade

But I am wondering how many of all these “mega Multis” will be heading to Exord with all their exhumers and Orcas.

[Remi_Lacroix]

@Eloken_Toralen

Says the character with a pr0n star name.

And? Big internet tough guy showing up to whiteknight someone that has been crying and calling names over several threads. Good for you!

@Eloken_Toralen

Pot, meet Kettle. There are half a dozen threads all with the participants going over the same topics, its surprising the ISD have not been more active.

Looking at the current ecosystem its an entirely defensible viewpoint, the consequences and accountability for ganking has been far too lenient and people are concerned as always CCP is failing to act before the are forced to and potentially ‘over correct’ in order to catch up.

Granted, many see the new region at this inevitable over correction and removal of what elsewhere is a core mechanic.

oh, really? I’m pretty sure i’ve been far more constructive than you or uta. Please, internet whiteknight, show me where I am lashing out at everybody. Show me where I am upset at all.

Cry me a river about ganking. Nobody cares. Piracy and PVP are part of the game. Don’t like it? Go play something else.

@Eloken_Toralen

It is accurate when considering those who resisted some modulation of the ganking gameplay loop are mostly, if not entirely responsible for incubating an environment where the data supported and CCP felt this step were necessary

Wrong.

"Currently, new players in EVE are afforded a measure of protection from PvP while in the starter systems, career agent systems, and SoE epic arc systems, by a rule posted on our support website, and more generally by the fact that new players usually don’t carry valuable items that make them worthwhile targets for “suicide ganking”. (Of course, this doesn’t mean they are never targeted, just that it is quite uncommon.)

However, new players do not know this, and will often have read stories about how ruthless and cutthroat New Eden can be, or even specific stories of new players being destroyed in highsec space. This means that some new players are learning the basics of EVE Online under a cloud of anxiety, knowing that another player could show up and attack them at any time."

These new systems are because of professional crybabies like yourself and uta. Constantly whining and crying about piracy, constantly claiming this isnt a pvp oriented game. Constantly claiming ganking is pushing new players out of the game. You’re wrong. You’re always wrong. You always will be wrong.

@Eloken_Toralen

They are either vested in the status quo or a sock puppet for someone who is as with most places on the internet.

armchair psychology at its finest. You must have a phd in internet bull ■■■■.

@Eloken_Toralen

@Remi_Lacroix

You’re projecting your own actions onto anybody and everybody that doesn’t sit on eve forums whining about ganking every day and all day. Since that character came into being, nearly every post you have made has been pure stupidity and whining about a core feature of this video game.

I have yet to see you ever post anything constructive. Just whining, building strawmen and projection.

The free speech of one man are words of treason to another.

Free speech is a political term regarding discontent towards a government. It is not a thing that pertains to attacking and calling people names on a video game forum.

@Eloken_Toralen

@Remi_Lacroix

PvP is a core element of the EVE Online experience and provides a crucial portion of the cycle of creation and destruction that drives New Eden’s economy.

It is one of many core elements, not the ONLY element.

Hey genius, read what the text says. That comes straight from CCP. PVP is A core element. Go ahead and burn your strawman.

@Eloken_Toralen

@Remi_Lacroix

You are the very thing you keep calling other people.

In this instance CCP has gone a direction so perpendicular to the multi decade history of the game its upset some folks who have gotten far too comfortable in their ‘safe’ environment and for the first time in a long time they feel under threat.

What you typed has absolutely nothing to do with what you quoted from me.

@Eloken_Toralen

@Remi_Lacroix

calm down, miner.

It is amusing to see the shoe on the other foot.

Do you normally not wear both shoes?

I don’t mine anymore. I don’t need to. It’s a waste of my time. At most, I will go provide boosts to new players in the new systems once in a while.

@Eloken_Toralen

@Remi_Lacroix

You contradict what CCP says, you contradict what you even say.

Stop looking at what CCP says, look at what they do.

It is hard to imagine this entirely new region was required because of empty rookie ships in the starter systems, mobile depot spam or the constant spamming of hypernet and recruitment referral links.

This region would not have been necessary if the safety of new players was not in question.

The appropriate phrase here is

“You have only yourselves to blame”

What?

CCP is posting information about content that isnt released. What am I supposed to look at other than what information is being provided?

I’ll post this again since it appears you never bothered to read anything on the announcement.

Currently, new players in EVE are afforded a measure of protection from PvP while in the starter systems, career agent systems, and SoE epic arc systems, by a rule posted on our support website, and more generally by the fact that new players usually don’t carry valuable items that make them worthwhile targets for “suicide ganking”. (Of course, this doesn’t mean they are never targeted, just that it is quite uncommon.)

However, new players do not know this, and will often have read stories about how ruthless and cutthroat New Eden can be, or even specific stories of new players being destroyed in highsec space. This means that some new players are learning the basics of EVE Online under a cloud of anxiety, knowing that another player could show up and attack them at any time.

These new systems arent being brought in because new players are being targeted and forced out of the game like you anti gank babies cry about all day every day. They’re being made because of you anti gank crybabies spreading your lies and slander.

You will never win your fight. EVE is a pvp centric video game. PVP is a core mechanic that is in every part of this video game. Piracy is a core mechanic of this video game, and it is in every part of this video game. You guys can cry and post 4 billion threads saying otherwise, but you’re still wrong.

[Remi_Lacroix]

@Eloken_Toralen

Until Exordium, Sovereign Null literally had the largest number of safe systems.

Still does.

Do you know why null is safer? Because players make it safer. Players work together, they put effort in.

[Uta_Asmai]

@Aiko_Danuja

Excuse me, but I don’t think that’s appropriate language.

Excuse me but i don’t think i have to care…

[Aiko_Danuja]

If you didn’t care, you wouldn’t be crying so much.

[Uta_Asmai]

I only cry over people that bend reality as long until it fits into their agenda regardless of reality…lots of them in this game…

[Aiko_Danuja]

You are just jealous that I can bend reality.

[Remi_Lacroix]

@Uta_Asmai

I only cry

fixed it for you. You’re welcome.

[Lugburz]

I dont think you can my guy.

[Lugburz]

null is annoyingly safe.. but yes; mostly because players stick together.. and its where i most often roam so it really isnt that safe… easy enough to not get killed tho…

[Sonder_Majus]

@Remi_Lacroix

These new systems arent being brought in because new players are being targeted and forced out of the game like you anti gank babies cry about all day every day. They’re being made because of you anti gank crybabies spreading your lies and slander.

I just want to re-post this, because this is 100% correct. This is a very big issue EVE has. Outsiders or potential players have a very flawed perception of the game, which this update will help to correct quite a bit.

[Uta_Asmai]

@Remi_Lacroix

fixed it for you. You’re welcome.

outing oneself with such actions as stupid does not really help in devaluing my point…naive…

[Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras]

i mean she’s not wrong… you and your conspiracy theories.

[Uta_Asmai]

she is completely wrong because i only state facts…facts some people dislike to hear maybe, but still facts…

[Cypherous]

I doubt any of them, the ore in there will likely be extremely limited and of extremely low quality as to make it probably not worth it, especially when your haulers become instantly killable anyway in order to haul the minerals out