Exactly.
I’m all for people or groups trying a different route but at the same time it birthed weak players which I’m very much against. I had an alt in there a few years ago and the amount of carebear stare babble was excruciating: “we can take these guys”, “no we can’t”, “why not?”, “because you and your ilk are clueless”. Not all obviously, lots of CVA was quite capable but they survived because they were the special kid in the class, the one that soils its pants, and the rest of the class just let it slide.
I love newbies (they taste crunchy with some milk) but I HATE clueless people, while there majority of nullseccers are mostly oblivious to facts and game mechanics Provi was a shining beacon of dumbs.