Made a new alt, as one does, got Trig standing on it and as I self destructed in Pochven space to get back to Jita I suddenly got an extra mail and a GM opened a message saying my first destroyed ship was reimbursed and was now sitting at my home station.
Ehhh, not so sure if that is what EVE needs.
Theyâre still working on the NPE so I assume itâs something to do with that? Looks like it was returned as a new packaged Heron and not, for instance, intact with modules or anything.
Darn, I should have thought to get blown up when I tested the NPE recently. Now Iâll have to test it again in another month or two.
It has the non-dropped modules on it. No idea when they introduced this but it canât be too long ago, might indeed be since the AIR NPE.
Wow. Seems like somebodyâs steering for a âkinder, gentler EVEâ.
Thatâs not gonna end well.
CCP is being pro-active in helping to retain new players.
Their studies have shown that the first ship loss is âThe Magic Momentâ of when a new player decides to stay or quit the game. Getting their first ship loss returned will hopefully encourage them to stay and playâŚ
That is certainly possible, and hopefully theyâre prepared with some data-mining to determine if it helps or not.
Myself I think it may set up unwarranted expectations of how EVE is going to work for them in the future.
In a proper test, weâd have a group getting their first destroyed ship back, a group getting an email or an Aura pop-up lesson explaining that âyouâre immortal, dying is part of EVE, ships are disposable and replaceable and itâs your skill and knowledge of the Eve-verse that makes you a better pilotâ. (And a control group, of course.) And then compare the retention data.
Somehow, I doubt thatâs gonna happen though⌠CCP will just pick whatever method won the last round of donut-fueled theorizing.
Theyâve done that before, some people getting the new stuff and others donât. I just hope that they donât do it if a characterâs first death is a 2 billion CNR because that would cause⌠issues.
Yup, did.
Itâll just shift the magic-moment to their next loss.
Even though the mail says they deducted the insurance payout?
I got 120k Insurance but the ship wasnât insured to just base payout. No idea if something was actually deducted, not without a bit of effort anyway.
Check your wallet to see if the insurance payout was reversed.
Nope, just one entry. Iâll do some more testing.
Dropped ones should be in the item hanger if they didnât get looted even
I suicided at a safespot in Pochven and saw no probes on Dscan during that process so no one could have looted or salvaged the wreck. Itâs just the ship with a few fitted modules. Iâll do some more testing on other chars to see what happens.
But the first ship loss ( and capsule loss ) is actually in the new intro to the gameâŚthough with an alt you can avoid that intro. There are also compulsory ship losses in two of the level 2 military missions. So simply getting as far as military level 2 you have 4 losses already recordedâŚthat you cannot avoid.
Update: I tried it on several characters over different accounts (including fresh ones), it never happened again. Either itâs super RNG or itâs tied to a GM being on call to do it manually.
The insurance is exactly the same for all of them: 120K.
Either youâre just dense or simply trolling.
The NPE doesnât count because itâs a scripted learning tutorial and the player has extremely limited control.
The Advanced Military Career Agent missions also donât count, those ships are given to the player and their loss is forewarned / scripted into the mission briefing.
The main thing about it is that those ships donât cost the player anything, no time or ISK was invested for those ships which means itâs not a devastating loss, thatâs what âThe Magic Momentâ is about.
You sure like to make things up and put them in CCPâs mouth.
Ok, so this is what I do.
Each morning I make ten new characters and Omega them. As soon as I can, I skill inject into a Marauder and fly it into the NPE mission system where I self-destruct. This gets me a newbro crybro replacement marauder from CCP, plus the insurance payout (I always do the highest insurance possible). I then make a support ticket, and complain that my computer glitched out, this also gets me a Marauder as CCP doesnât check whether I already got one. I also link my killmail in Rookie Help with a sadface, this will get me 2-3 additional Marauders from wellwishers. For an hourâs work each morning, I am up 20-30 Marauders, which I sell in Jita (but sometimes I take them to Amarr). I also extract all the skill points, which become free skill points after I complain to CCP customer service and get all my PLEX back so I can omega new characters. Itâs pretty easy isk/hr. I then track who buys the Marauders and shoot them (I have dedicated ganker alts for this purpose).
