Activating it while in warp to an auto-dock bookmark doesn’t really count.
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And those are…??? I guess a Polaris or Cockroach maybe?
I will start by thanking everyone for taking the time to read my review and opinions about Eve Online and expressing their point of view in return. Next I will attempt to clarify some of my statements, address your opinions, and define some common idioms used.
Of course you can play as alpha, the common jargon used here “pay to win” is an oxymoron. It is used to express when the game design pressures players to pay for something not offered to others who are willing to pay. The item betterment makes for longer lasting game play, better rewards, and less effort within the game. The common phrase used is pay to win, when it should be redefined within all MMOs as; Pay for Success. Most people tend to replace the word “win” with “complete”. Words are tricky things when they can have multiple meanings. You will never complete an open world MMO until you quit playing or they shut the doors.
As before, I said, there is nothing wrong with a pay to win system. Many games sell you items for cash to empower your character to push ahead of the rest. Some of these items are permanent others are temporary and those are a risk. All games need risk or they are not rewarding, but I wouldn’t recommend risking your real world finances on any virtual rewards.
Kezrai Charzai thank you for itemizing your opinions on my review. Yes, I am enjoying this game, as it has that air of nostalgia I do miss. I look forward to change, as long as it is not at the cost of the entertainment value.
Thank you for the warm welcome.
Long running doesn’t make anything great or unique. If this was the case, there are several MMOs with longer runs than this one. I won’t get into a massive debate of what came out first, but I am certain there are MUDs still active today from 1980. The oldest MUD I played was “Dungeon” back in 1977 at the university, as home computers back then were yet a lofty goal.
Personally I despise all the “Game is Dead / Dying” posts in forums. I did comment about the poor economic model of buying Plex for ISK dragging the financials down. Thus I can understand how that would sound like; this game is doomed post. I have seen this done elsewhere such as; Cryptic’s superhero game “Champions Online” where one can trade the premium currency for game currency. However this transaction is capped and when the premium currency is unavailable the freemium user must wait in a long queue line for sales. I see a parallel between CCP and Cryptic Studios, both are children of the game company Atari. CCP is now owned by Pearl Abyss and Cryptic Studios was recently purchased for GearBox Software by Embracer Group. Since both of these conglomerates operate in the billions, I would imagine they can afford a hefty tax shelter. Don’t worry your game is safe. 
Welome Erkkinnen, I suppose one can use autopilot, but it is a very bad idea. It only gives the gankers a sporting chance at every stargate to make points off your loss. Manual warps arrive directly within 1 kilometer of the gate as autopilot system drops you well over 10 km and your ship crawls for 20 to 30 seconds to the gate. I might use the system, if I am running in my corvette to my home station, hoping someone will kill me to quicken the trip.
I assume by non-PvP ship, they mean less than lethal. One can still get killed, it would just be less likely.
LOL not many my guy.
Sigh. I should have known this was gonna be a sneak diss EVE thread.
You can feel the condescension from here LOL.
It’s almost like you completely ignored my post.
If you’re new, it is not “pay for success”. It is “pay for expensive unsuccess”.
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Gix Firebrand if I was disrespecting the game, I would tell you not to drink the Kool-aid. I am sorry, if you think my review is a bias slur.
Io Koval while agree with your prior post, I didn’t see any point to dragging the terminology section on too long. Expense is relative to the observer. For example; My wife started back in 2008, by spending about $500 on Guild Wars, and she continues to spend my money on her glamour doll houses in Black Desert to this day. From her aspect, these games are free to play at my expense.
It’s great you agree, but from your responses I’m not sure what I am trying to convey is really landing. Ah well.
Pretty clearly someone with an agenda, and not an actual new player.
I can see that you never used a cyno alt.
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at least you have a wife that play video games
cant complain
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Some comments:
Games like EVE or Cryptic’s, that have F2P options and also cash/game currency conversion, appear to be the trend lately. However, many of these games have long delays in the conversion trade, mostly because the in-game currency is nowhere near as desirable/consumed as the cash currency.
In EVE, the game/cash currency trading has historically been lively, fast and high volume. Partly due to the way the EVE market is run (hoarders with plenty of ISK will buy when low and sit on it for long periods), and partly because EVE’s PvP/destruction/relatively slow ISK grinds keep the demand for both currencies high.
In this game design, the devs are trying to accomodate players who have lots of time but little cash, and players who have lots of cash but little time. This process actually works better in EVE than most other games that use it, and doesn’t drag the financials down. On any sale of Plex, converted to ISK, then used to buy with Plex - CCP makes more money than on a straight sale.
It’s a “the house always wins” situation - so far. Recent ISK/Plex trends have shown that the Plex/ISK trading mechanic is becoming less desirable, or more to the point, there are fewer players currently willing to trade their cash for gamers time.
Also, for the name linking, your method highlights the name. However if you put an @ in front of their name while typing, like @Srima_Darkstar , it will not only highlight it but send them a notice of the mention.
Finally, there’s a small crowd of forum hangers-on that will find a way to disparage anything and anyone who isn’t in their “PvP is great and PvPers are the smartest and bestest players” club.
You can safely ignore their dark mutterings, they’re a minority in the game and are quite sensitive about it.
(Don’t ignore them completely though, as some of them do possess good game knowledge and experience and can be helpful or informative when the mood strikes. And the PvP is an interesting portion of EVEs special niche so shouldn’t be overlooked.)
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That was fairly obvious early on, therefore I didnt bother expanding. Some people are open to changing their opinions but others are not and, perhaps, yet others are just trolling. The second I notice something or someone is a waste of time is the second I stop spending energy on it/that person, and rather focus on something/someone more worthwhile.
That’s also why I generally don’t engage in long back and forth threads&posts, it’s just full of dumb and silliness, a waste of energy. Save your energy, use it on folks/newbies where it can do good, much les frustrating 
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No agenda and I started playing this game last summer. I am not new to PvP games and MMOs. As stated, in my first post of the thread, I was playing in another PvP MMO and a person in chat told me this game might be more my taste. The PvP aspect is actually quite good, in my opinion. Reviews are about opinions and I don’t see where I have put myself above you or anyone else in this thread. I felt having played this game for 6 months, I have a feel for it now. I respect the opinions of others, it is obvious you disagree with my opinion, and that is for you to judge. What I don’t care for is being called a troll and a liar. If you don’t respect the opinion of others, you only disrespect yourself. My opinions can change, but not the fact that I’m right. 
I sooo want to play this game ! But wait, open world exploring, trading, diplomacy… in 1980 …?
yesterday i PLEXED my acount
i was bored , sooooo , lets do some EVE
i had lots of fights
today i killed a guy he said , “GF like they say , it was my first fight “ , super good spirited guy , i talked to him for a bit and even sent some 3x the lost mail isk with a cute message , thats the kind of noobs EVE needs
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Ok, just googled this game. No wonder why you find the overview and target’s system way different than the typical space game.
To start with: EVE is a tactical space battle game, not a 3D space shooter with weird mechanics. Also, it’s about gathering intel, being smart, take the right decisions about other corps / alliances / factions depending on your gameplay style…
Unwary people a few years ago jumping into EVE like it was a space shooter were like “excuse me, how do I steer ?”. Today most of that people gets warned and scared away from the large tutorial with focus on the tactical side of the game.
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The main problem of new players is the lack of isk to sustain several mistakes, and then the lack of good skills to build that isk up quickly.
If it takes a few isk to make a new EVE player to stay longer, I’ll gladly throw it to them, but I’m afraid the problem is more deep.
If you can find it, you will need a DOS emulator (DOS Box) to play it. The graphics are CGI or EGA depending on the system. They also released a revamp version to Sega console ( just looked that up ) in 1991. When I played this, it had a 3 layered code wheel and physical map of the galaxy. From the looks of it Eve Online has about 100 times the solar systems. If you failed the code wheel, the game would not tell you and space police would pull you over after you leave dock, and the floppy disk would be erased. I always played on a backup copy for obvious reasons.
small scale PVP is dirt cheap
plex is expensive
if the ships costed 2x more and plex 1/2 i would be a rich man
No, the main problem is the lack of brain effort newbies are willing to put in to find different things to do, things that they might enjoy more and make more iskies. Instead they stick to low effort mining or missions (which are really just dailies).
And the next issue is low brain effort older players telling these newbies to go and mine, to then show them a road ahead that’s full of boring and laziness (because they’re alts) which makes the newbies uninstall (because they’re NOT alts and get bored AF).
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