A Premise For Life Existing In The Universe Outside of Earth


(DrysonBennington) #148

You are trolling and nothing more. You are trying to high jack the post because it doesn’t go with what you believe or how everyone should believe.

That is why you are deficient in your thinking and result to whining about being abused.


(Remiel Pollard) #150

No, actually, I’m not, and never was. My attempts to provide you with accurate information is not trolling. Your ignorance of that information does not make it trolling. Calling it trolling does not make it trolling, it’s just your pathetic attempt to dismiss legitimate criticism of your crappy theological and teleological arguments that contradict ALL EXISTING EVIDENCE.

But again, Dryson, I don’t care what you believe. You’re entitled to your beliefs, no matter how wrong they are. My message to you has been, from the start, that no matter how ‘factual’ you make your crappy ideas sound, nobody with a high school science education is going to be convinced without evidence.


(DrysonBennington) #152

You are trying to base your thoughts on what you have already stated science as having discovered in the last 10,000 years.

The Universe is 13.8 billion years old. How can you logically express to know everything with only having 10,000 years of science? A science that has only recently discovered gravitational waves.


(Remiel Pollard) #154

Same to you, buddy. How do you know what happened? You don’t. Meanwhile, we have this thing called ‘deductive reasoning’. It’s how we solve murders without actually being there to see them happen. It’s how we figure out nature, without actually seeing it happen. You don’t get to sit there and claim “but you weren’t there” as if you were.

I’m not the one breaking the rules, mate. You’re the one calling me ‘mentally deficient’ because you’d rather attack the person making the argument, because you have no argument against the argument itself. Your behaviour is common, and easily spotted.

When you first replied to me, you argued, “there is no thinking differently”, and now you’re telling me I don’t want people to think liberally? Differently? You can think differently, but if you aren’t prepared to adjust you’re viewpoints when faced with information that contradicts what it is you’re thinking, then you aren’t really thinking, you’re settling for dogma.


(Remiel Pollard) #161

Quick, furiously type something angry and insulting back at me that doesn’t address any of the points I’ve made so I can report it again.


(DrysonBennington) #162

The Universe existing just because it exists is not science.

Dogma - a principle or set of principles laid down by an authority as incontrovertibly true.

Dogma - Your principle that you have laid down as being “the Universe exists because it does”

The weight of evidence tells us that the existence of the universe precedes that of the existence of life. Sorry, whether you accept it or not, that is a fact.

Hundreds of years of science does not set the foundation for reality across a 13.8 billion year time span.


(DrysonBennington) #163

This isn’t your post. You didn’t start the post therefore you are not the op. You are whining let alone trolling because you want to be correct but can only provide hundreds of years of science to back up your claims when the Universe is 13.8 billion years old.


(DrysonBennington) #164

Have you been to 99.99999% of the Universe or are you merely taking a fragment from one of Neil DeGrasse’s comments?


(Remiel Pollard) #165

I don’t need your permission to post here, buddy. Deal with it.

It’s funny, how you claim we couldn’t possibly know what happened 13.8 billion years ago, while at the same time you can accept that we know the universe is 13.8 billion years old. The facts only matter when they conform to your bias, don’t they? Haha.

How do you know Jupiter exists? You haven’t been there.


(DrysonBennington) #168

This post was never about what science has already discovered nor was it a post about maintaining some capitalist agenda of adhering to a mere hundred years of science.

This post was created to ask questions that science has never been able to answer.

Perhaps you should go back to the BIC bank then.


(DrysonBennington) #169

(Remiel Pollard) #170

That’s just it though. Most of the questions you think science is unable to answer have actually been answered. And you’re rejecting those answers in lieu of your own ‘answers’ as if just because science ‘can’t’ answer them, you can.

Science is the almost exclusive method by which we have figured out almost anything we know. Mathematics is another, but the scientific method is still applied to prove it. Your rejection of science is your rejection of the very technology you’re using to reject it on, because it wouldn’t exist without science. Also:


(DrysonBennington) #171

The cells that are contained inside of a male and female are based on a blue print for life. The blue print didn’t come after the Big Bang because the necessity of life needing energy to expand and grow came before the Big Bang.

The Big Bang needed energy to rapidly expand and grow from the Quantum state into a Singularity and then into the Big Bang. Inanimate objects such as minerals and electrons do have not any need to expand and consume energy to grow. Only life has the need to consume energy to grow and expand.


(Remiel Pollard) #173

How do you know? Were you there?


(DrysonBennington) #174

The Big Bang needed energy to expand otherwise it wouldn’t have jumped from one state to the next state in the Quantum realm and then into the Relativity realm. There has to have been a need for the Big Bang in it’s Quantum state to need more energy. More energy means growth and expansion. The only factor in the Universe that needs more energy to grow and expand is Life.

Even the paramecium needs energy to grow and expand. Viruses need energy to grow and expand.


(DrysonBennington) #182

Life only has the need to build a future for itself. The Universe has no need at all to build anything.


(Remiel Pollard) #184

if your argument is that the universe was designed for life, then you need to demonstrate how it supports life, or you need to admit that it’s a piss poor design.


(Remiel Pollard) #186

I’m not going to engage you anymore, Dryson. It would be more productive to bang my head against a brick wall until I fell into a coma. I fully intend to engage with people who post here with an interest in actual discussion, but you are beneath even my disrespect at this point.


(DrysonBennington) #187

You are taking bits from various videos to justify your arguments. You are not thinking for yourself. You do have the mentality of a cave man.

Life designed the Universe for its own need.

How can it be a piss poor design? Your knowledge of the Universe goes only as far as Mars and walking around in an environment that has is already pristine for life.

Your knowledge of the Human factor resides in a very small spectrum of associative links. I’m certain that you have never studied anything other than what you can scurry under the dark little shell that you live in.


(DrysonBennington) #188

If I had never created this post then you would never have had any relevance to engage is such a conversation created by yourself, now would have you?